Diff forward on a GQ

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:50 am

Has anyone moved there front diff forward more than 2"?

Spoke with superior and they say that the drop boxes they have move it about 10-15mm then u can use little 10mm spacers for the arms but thats only about 20-25mm..... not enough!

Anyome else done it?

Cheers

Website · Post by **GRINCH** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:12 am

make custom drop boxes, would need to move spring mounts foward to. ive got mine 20mm foward andthe spring clunk and bind on the lower spring hat

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:19 am

GRINCH wrote:make custom drop boxes, would need to move spring mounts foward to. ive got mine 20mm foward andthe spring clunk and bind on the lower spring hat

What did u do with the panhard? did it have to be moved at all? Does it handle ok?

Post by **bogged** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:20 am

justinshere wrote:Has anyone moved there front diff forward more than 2"?

Spoke with superior and they say that the drop boxes they have move it about 10-15mm then u can use little 10mm spacers for the arms but thats only about 20-25mm..... not enough!

Anyome else done it?

Cheers

why do you need to move it more? most people only move it 10-15mm to start with?

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:29 am

[/quote]why do you need to move it more? most people only move it 10-15mm to start with?[/quote]

I want a perfect approach angle tyres hittin stuff first! Doing a bit of guard chopping and getting rid of my tube bar

Post by **Wendle** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:43 am

Mine was forward about 50mm, custom 5-link suspension with the panhard mount completely changed and MQ knuckles to move the steering links, etc..
If you do it well it makes them behave quite a lot better, GQ's have a lot of weight in front of the front axle.

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:08 am

Thanks Wendle

Can i get some more pics of the front end, panhard 5Link etc etc...??
or is it in the members section or something?
If not ill send u my email

Thanks Justin

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:27 pm

Wendle, the pic u posted from offroad images, do u have more from that site? If so can i have the link?

Thanks

Website · Post by **GRINCH** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:43 pm

justinshere wrote:
GRINCH wrote:make custom drop boxes, would need to move spring mounts foward to. ive got mine 20mm foward andthe spring clunk and bind on the lower spring hat
What did u do with the panhard? did it have to be moved at all? Does it handle ok?

panard is standard, handles as well as any high patrol does

Post by **RMP&O** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:43 pm

That is sweet Wendle....kind of like this MQ.

Post by **MKPatrolGuy** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:54 pm

How about moving the cab and driveline back on the chassis. Can go back as far you want (within reason) this way.

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:12 pm

MKPatrolGuy wrote:How about moving the cab and driveline back on the chassis. Can go back as far you want (within reason) this way.

hmmm.. but then you would have to move the rear diff back also. Theres alot more work if u move the cab, engine mounts Gbox fuel tank etc etc
something to consider though... thanks

Post by **Wendle** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:42 pm

justinshere wrote:Thanks Wendle

Can i get some more pics of the front end, panhard 5Link etc etc...??
or is it in the members section or something?
If not ill send u my email

Thanks Justin

There used to be photos on here, but that was a few years ago, there has been a few server crashes since then.
It was orginally one of the first Overkill 5-links, but I ended up changing some of the brackets to get it to behave the way I wanted and making longer links to move the axle forward.
All I did to the panhard was to move the axle end up to match the flatter drag-link angle I got with the MQ stuff. It sort of ended up mounted next to the coil spring. I think I put more bend in it to clear the diff centre on compression, from memory?

Post by **pongo** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:05 pm

RMP&O wrote:That is sweet Wendle....kind of like this MQ.

any more pics of this one ? Very nice indeedy

Post by **Bartso** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:09 pm

as i am doing this as well and changing my front suspension to custom 5 link as well as coil over front i would of thought 50mm be about max you could move it froward with out getting too much angle on your panhard as well as steering arm wouldn't it?

i got under mine and was thinking i would have to move the panhard mount chassis end and steering box forward which seemed alot of work

Post by **justinshere** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:19 pm

Bartso wrote:as i am doing this as well and changing my front suspension to custom 5 link as well as coil over front i would of thought 50mm be about max you could move it froward with out getting too much angle on your panhard as well as steering arm wouldn't it?

i got under mine and was thinking i would have to move the panhard mount chassis end and steering box forward which seemed alot of work

That my plan exactly, i have 18" travel coilovers and i wanna squash them in the front. But trying to get enough movement out of a 5 link with limited space isnt gunna be easy.
The less things i have to chop off n move the better!

Ive been told that instead of moving ur steering box, use one from a GU- box and arm. Apparently it puts the draglink forward more, can anyone confirm this? has anyone done it?

Have u startd urs yet Bartso?

Post by **RMP&O** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:03 am

pongo wrote:any more pics of this one ? Very nice indeedy

http://groups.msn.com/NissanPatrolClubA ... atrol.msnw

Post by **AFeral** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:22 am

Could get some custom Arms made up. On track sell '2DE' arms which are custom made and not too exspensive. I'm sure if you asked nicely or waved some cash in their face some custom length ones could be made.

Post by **justinshere** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:56 pm

AFeral wrote:Could get some custom Arms made up. On track sell '2DE' arms which are custom made and not too exspensive. I'm sure if you asked nicely or waved some cash in their face some custom length ones could be made.

Is that 2Dextreme that makes em? Ive spoke with him n he'll do it if i want it, asked yesterday.

Cheers

Post by **fatassgq** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:52 pm

I don't think the GU Pitman arm and box will move the draglink any further forward but you can mod em so that it drops the draglink down to a better angle. (flatter or more parallel with the ground.) You also have to mod the panhar rod if you are going to do this.

Post by **Bartso** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:41 pm

just having a look the steering arm itself could be moved forward prob about 100mm without moving the box and parnhrd maybe?

instead can we make a custom panhard that has a bend in it moving it forward?

what kind of mods are we talking about in the steering arm moving it up at diff end or lowering it chassis end?

Post by **Beastmavster** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:33 pm

I wouldnt mind stretching mine out 1/2" or so at either end, so long as it's not gonna cause major dramas.

Maybe a little more at the rear if I could.

Post by **justinshere** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:16 pm

Bartso wrote:just having a look the steering arm itself could be moved forward prob about 100mm without moving the box and parnhrd maybe?

instead can we make a custom panhard that has a bend in it moving it forward?

what kind of mods are we talking about in the steering arm moving it up at diff end or lowering it chassis end?

I dont know about puttin a forward bend in the panhard. Have to look into that. Might work though, would save alot of trouble i think.
If u drop a GU box/arm in there it would lower the draglink on the chassis end. Then jus gotta contend with the panhard.
Check this out, its the GQ and GU box. (Scroll down abit) GU is on the right in the top pic, left in the bottom one.

http://downunder4x4.net/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=80

Rather than swap the GU box/arm i know of a place that makes a Histeer arm for a GQ hub, it lifts the draglink on the hub end 6" Its about $750 though. GU box/arm is prob cheaper...

Cheers

Post by **justinshere** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:18 pm

Bartso,
Just out of interest, is ur pic a shorty with a single cab body or was it chopped?

Post by **Bartso** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:19 pm

was a shorty now a middy with a ute cab bolted on

Post by **Bartso** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:24 pm

also im doing the mq swivel hub swap as well so a higher steer arm would be out of the question

i don't think there would be a prob with a forward bend in the panhard rod but i don't know anyone see a prob with this?

Post by **Wendle** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:24 pm

Move the axle end of the panhard so the panhard is above the axle instead of in front of it.

Post by **justinshere** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:02 pm

Bartso wrote:was a shorty now a middy with a ute cab bolted on

So how much have u extended the wheelbase by? Do u have any pics i can see of it, mainly the rear coils n fuel tank area? I'll PM u my email, that ok...???

Thanks

Post by **justinshere** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:03 pm

Wendle wrote:Move the axle end of the panhard so the panhard is above the axle instead of in front of it.

This is what i might do. Since ill be running coilovers ill have room there to put it above the housing.

Does anyone see a prob with doing that, putting the panhard on top instead of in front of the housing???

Website · Post by **GRINCH** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:55 am

as long as it clears the sump it should be ok

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