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Bundera Engine Conversion- COMPLETED!!

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Post by bj on roids »

How did you get it to idle correctly? Wa it the idle speed controller? What did you do to he wiring?
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Post by Wendle »

BUNDERA wrote:All right then.. She is running like a dream. Goes allright!

Idling perfect now.
Powersteer is working a treat.
Alternator is rigged up.
Installed Boost Gage.
Running about 11-12 PSI BOOST.... :cool:



Awesome work dude, if I lived in townsville or similar I would say "ARMS UP!"
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Post by dumbdunce »

what's with the townsvill 'ARMS UP' thing???

ps tops work on the bundy. can't wait to see it fly!
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Post by BUNDERA »

Ok I have booked it in for tomorrow to get the exhaust done.

I am getting a 2.5"system, no cat and a straight through muffler. $180 fitted.

You wouldnt believe it but in Tassie there is only like 1 company that can bend 3" pipe and they cannot mandral bend it..they can only crush bend it and even then they cant get very good angles..

Thats Tassie 4 u...

Thanks for all your opinions. I would have gone just the resinator except they wont pass me at the transport depot...too loud...(not loud enough in my opinion!!!)
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Post by BUNDERA »

As for getting the idle right it was a combination of a few things... 1 shit ground connection in the wiring, pretty fuked spark plugs ($30each plug for new ones...fuk that!! just cleaned them several times) and something else...cant remember what though..

I cant wait to give it some lovin!!

Going wheeling on Wednesday for the 1st time with new engine and tires!!! Got the day off work!

How is you 4b coming along bj?

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Post by bj on roids »

mine was having an idling problem, but Sam just upped the idle which is fine! but was hoping to find out exactly, checking the ground and also checking the other thing you forgot might be just what it needs.

(Can you find out and get back to me with what it was?)

It is going awesome!

check it out in the members section!
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Post by Jonesy »

1.Are you going to have to take it over the pits?
2.How did you bust the shocky?
3 where are you going to test it :)
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Post by Skip »

Man i wish i was finished, I havent even started yet :cry: . Ive ran into a problem though I thought i could just use an R154 supra bellhousing on my R151f. I have found out the R154 input shaft is 30mm longer than the R151f, meaning also the bellhousing is 30mm longer. I may have to do a cut and shut job with the 2 bellhousings.
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Post by BUNDERA »

Shouldn't have to take it over the pits. just take it to an "inspection station" where they will recieve a carton or two of cold beverages!! hehe :lol: along with the old girl.

As for testing it. I have been for a few quick drives although it is so loud that people start to look around 100-150m ahead when it is on full boost!!

Have been going esay on it just incase something isn't tight or aligned right. Will take it out for a burn tonight, along southern outlet or something. See how she goes.

Bj something else that I had to do to mine to clear up the last little problem of the idle was clean the plugs several times in petrol.

I know this may seem really basic but it did help on mine.

There was a build up of gunk and crap between the inulator and the middle bit, and it was causing the spark to be very dull becuase it was acting like a resistor. This gunk and crap is not on the end of the plug where the spark jumps, it is back up inside the where the ceramic ends..

Sorry for the basic terminology.... :) ...make sense?

If yours uses platnem plugs like mine you will be looking at around 180 for the 6 $30ea.

I will try and remember what the other thing is.

Is you afm wired up right?

Hey Skip that is a shit about your bellhousing mate. Hope it all turns out ok for u!


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Post by slowhilux »

Platinum plugs are overrated bits of shit!!! The only reason why the japs use them is cos they are lazy, dont have to change them as often.

Nick, use NGK BCPR7ES, work fuggin A1, and are only like $2.95 each

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Post by bj on roids »

BUNDERA wrote:Shouldn't have to take it over the pits. just take it to an "inspection station" where they will recieve a carton or two of cold beverages!! hehe :lol: along with the old girl.

As for testing it. I have been for a few quick drives although it is so loud that people start to look around 100-150m ahead when it is on full boost!!

Have been going esay on it just incase something isn't tight or aligned right. Will take it out for a burn tonight, along southern outlet or something. See how she goes.

Bj something else that I had to do to mine to clear up the last little problem of the idle was clean the plugs several times in petrol.

I know this may seem really basic but it did help on mine.

There was a build up of gunk and crap between the inulator and the middle bit, and it was causing the spark to be very dull becuase it was acting like a resistor. This gunk and crap is not on the end of the plug where the spark jumps, it is back up inside the where the ceramic ends..

Sorry for the basic terminology.... :) ...make sense?

If yours uses platnem plugs like mine you will be looking at around 180 for the 6 $30ea.

I will try and remember what the other thing is.

Is you afm wired up right?

Hey Skip that is a shit about your bellhousing mate. Hope it all turns out ok for u!


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i would have no use for 6 plugs, my motor needs 8!

i think its the idle speed controller having issues.
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Post by Ruggers »

you can use just standard plugs. the only benefit from platimun. is that in newer cars they are a prick to get to so you only change the every 80 -100 thousand. just be carefull as your motor is alloy adn changing pulgs when the motor is hot even warm. as you can strip the thread in the heads. i was told this by a mate a toyota. but it also happens wth gen3's strip plug threads. also with the plug make sure there the same temp range.
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Post by Jonesy »

Sorry when i said test... i ment where are you going wheeling ? :roll:
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Post by robbie »

I remember hearing that its not too good to clean spark plugs in fuel..

it stuffs the electrode or something?

a bit of emery paper normally does the trick..

and before you say 'but spark plugs come in contact with fuel'.. yer I said the same thing, but its compressed that much and fired that quick, it doesn't do damage to them in normal operation..

I am yet to follow up on this theory, but yer, try emery paper
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Post by BUNDERA »

Allright. I have some bad news..... I am going back to 2" lift after the vibrations that I got from my other setup last night. At the moment and for the next few weeks I am running my standard height bundera springs... fark it is almost a lowrider!. Until I can get another set of 2" lift.

As for the plugs I will have to read into it more.!

Goto go now to get the exhaust done. @2.oopm

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Post by robbie »

good idea..

anything higher than 2" in a bundy isn't needed IMHO.. testing with daniel (bundytime) and my mate john, we have figured 2" is all you need
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Post by dumbdunce »

double cardan joint shaft should sort out the vibes. my bundy's guts would be all over the rocks if it only had 2" lift, and with 4ish lift with the 80 springs the tailshaft wobbles are barely noticable.
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Post by robbie »

dumbdunce, you still on 33"s or have you gone to 35"s?
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Post by dumbdunce »

35's. sometimes I miss the 33's though, have stood it on the spare wheel a couple of times since going to 35's, see avatar.
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Post by robbie »

hehe :lol:
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Post by dumbdunce »

my spare wheel carrier is all mooshed in :(

lucky it's there though otherwise it would be my third upside down bundy.
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Post by robbie »

ahhaha make sure you aren't near any rivers :finger:

dude, I am still waiting on these pics/movies you promised me months ago that you were going to burn on a CD and send over :cry:
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Post by BUNDERA »

i wouldn't mind a copy too!!

Collect it from the exhaust shop in 35mins!!

I wonder what it will sound like...

I will get anonter set of 2" lift sometime soon...
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Post by dumbdunce »

pm me your address and I'll get it on the way with wobbies one.
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Post by robbie »

aye cracka..

hows it go with the zorst??

hows it sound?
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Post by BUNDERA »

Well the system is in place. 2.5" system with the straight through muffler. Sounds awesome when u give it a gutful and nice and quiet if u are just cruising.

The engine now runs alot smoother and has heaps more power than it did with no exhaust!

I now need to get a bonnet scoop and I also need to work out an intercooler..think I will front mount it.. needs a bonnet scoop to get some air on the engine as it gets quite warm after a while..

Took it on a local track yesterday...I love Goodyear MTR's they kick arse! (Off Jeffery's Track) Those side lugs rock!

I will definatly get some pics soon.

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Post by MUSS »

come on nick... stop teasin WE NEED PICS :rofl: :rofl:
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Post by BUNDERA »

the pics u are after are at www.jakesgayporncollection.rofl.lamo

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Post by dumbdunce »

aww crap that url doesn't work for me :(
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Post by MUSS »

BUNDERA wrote:the pics u are after are at www.jakesgayporncollection.rofl.lamo

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WTF i didnt know i had a web site :shock: :shock: hey nick you must have worked over time to get that up and goin...BACK DOOR BIATCH :finger: :rofl:
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