Nissan Trials 06

[markil]

1st off my zook is a daily driver and my only car, it gets driven to and from events and pushes my financial limits enough as it is. Maybe I shouldn't be competing in it, at least if I was in a club like yours where points take priority over everything else. But in my club we do what we can to help each other and have fun doing it, it's not all about points. I personally know at least 3 cars which have had their engines screwed up because of the mud events in the last year, and I wasn't gonna be the fourth, not this weekend anyway. Our club also AFAIK didn't have any other cars to drive in this event this year, we didn't have a reserve after one car broke on the saturday either, however we managed to reorganise in a way to get another car to take the cars place, and they didn't drive the mud either for similar reasons to mine I beleive. I like to think I have a very supportive club with great people in it, and I do what I can get points up and help with anything I can. But, I'm not gonna drive something that could ruine my car for the sake of 10-20 points. When and/if I oneday can afford to have another car and trailor to tow my junk to events then it will be driven much harder including the mud.

As for line jumping we really had no chance of getting back into line after repares.

So you went to the end of the line right?

[Miss Wendy]

The que jumping will always be a problem. We tried the number thing but there would be hold ups on one event and they would be pushed onto the next one to keep things moving. People break things and can't get back in line. Its hard. With the running order we consider this the fairest. Some of the events get easier, some get harder. It wouldn't be fair the last club all scoring bad cause the event got very difficult later on in the day. As it is the first car from each team will go to event #1, the second cars to #2 etc.

What I'm am saying is there has to be some sort of system to start.
It just goes to pot as the weekend goes on. I'm not saying what you did was wrong. Its just what happens but there has to be some resembalance of order to start with and we think this is the fairest. I am open to suggetions.

[thunder]

I/we had a excellent weekend.
our 1st event was event 4 under the powerlines.
5 points and no lockers.compresser was rooted.
navvy tried to fix it and we went to our 2nd event(event 1)
where we waited 2 hrs and get to the start line and the compressor
doesnt work. we take it back to camp and change compressors.
brought a spare.

after this we drove average or above in all other events

[zookjedi]

1st off my zook is a daily driver and my only car, it gets driven to and from events and pushes my financial limits enough as it is. Maybe I shouldn't be competing in it, at least if I was in a club like yours where points take priority over everything else. But in my club we do what we can to help each other and have fun doing it, it's not all about points. I personally know at least 3 cars which have had their engines screwed up because of the mud events in the last year, and I wasn't gonna be the fourth, not this weekend anyway. Our club also AFAIK didn't have any other cars to drive in this event this year, we didn't have a reserve after one car broke on the saturday either, however we managed to reorganise in a way to get another car to take the cars place, and they didn't drive the mud either for similar reasons to mine I beleive. I like to think I have a very supportive club with great people in it, and I do what I can get points up and help with anything I can. But, I'm not gonna drive something that could ruine my car for the sake of 10-20 points. When and/if I oneday can afford to have another car and trailor to tow my junk to events then it will be driven much harder including the mud.

As for line jumping we really had no chance of getting back into line after repares.

So you went to the end of the line right?

i believe its between the driver and his club , if the club doesn't mind (as there there for fun and a bit of competion ) than pulling out of any event is left to the driver/navi , simple as that . if on the other hand the club is deadly serious about club points and not so much individual points that that is again between the club and the driver no one else .

i competeed back in 2004 and stuffed my engine and wasn't going to run the mud this year due to this fact and the fact that the engine is hardly run in yet , i did drive it though soley because i choose to and being a mechanic etc i thought there is no reason why i carn't drive it this time with out hurting the engine if i take a little care first and prep it properly . all went well but its soley between the club you are competing for and the driver noone else . hell by people not driving the mud that makes my dismall points look not as bad considering i was the ONLY car that couldn't even get into the TREES REVENGE TRACK (bloody small tyres/logs/rain/big rigs all day beforeme ) I SUX !

but was a fun week end all in all next time i will have bigger rubber for sure .

cheers Jai

[ET4Runner]

I think some people missed Madmac's point.

Being entered as part of a team means just that: part of a team. I believe there are very few clubs who are focussed on 'the points'; we are all there for a good time, and to have a go. And it's not just those within your own club that will help out, there's been plenty of times where our club has helped others and visa-versa.

However, ultimately it is every individual's choice to do what they want, after all, it's their car. You don't want to do such and such an event, then fine. Your choice.

But let's face it, the Trials have been in this format for a number of years now (i.e leaning more towards hardcore wheeling - pun intended ), and those that compete regularly know what it's about. They also know about breakages, and prepping their rigs. Perhaps if the Trials are not your thing, there are other comps to have a go in.

My biggest thing is people that either (a) don't stay with their vehicle (or at least nearby watching) to move it up, (b) they lock it and take their keys with them. If you get to know who's in front, behind and so on, we all watch out for each other, so nobody's gunna flog your car.

Enough of that then.....

I'll add my thanks to Miss Wendy & Nissan Patrol Club, I think the event went really well this year. The recoveries were quicker and better planned, so thanks to those dudes who stand around waiting for us to stuff up

Always good at events like this to catch up with the other clubs and share the cameraderie of a common interest.

[ET4Runner]

Damn double post

[ozy1]

okay, how about we all get off with whining band wagon, and talk about how our weekends went, where you went well, and where you didnt, this was meant to be a fun time,

ill start
We were car number 1, so we were the first to drive, startin with event 1,
Event 1 -BIG W- as we were car one, we were first off, we had a fairly easy drive and managed to pull up resting on out chassis rails at the 85 point marker,

Event 2 -Maquarie 4x4 Round-a-bout- Cancelled due to accident,

Event 3 -Pro Comp Criss Cross- we went of taking it easy, as we got to the 50 point marker we ended up breaking a CV, we ended up getting to the 65 point marker where the logs pushed us towards the bunting, we couldnt pull it back casue we were lacking drive,

Event 4 -4x4 Australia Off road Adventure- as we attacked the first big climb, we managed to get just over the tree root at the top, where the carby ran out of fuel, i tried pumpin the throttle to get us up, but this failed and we ended up sliding back to the bottom, scorsing 5 points,

Event 5 -Hi Tech Automotive Stairway- we managed to crawl our way to the 30 point mark, where we couldnt grab traction, but hey, we had fun

Event 6 -ARB Trees Revenge- we wnt into this one thinkin we'd aim for the 60 points at least, wo took a fairly steady drive into it, as we had seen a couple of truck flop at the 5 point marker, we had a fairly sweet drive, with the logs pushing us to the left, then back to the right, we managed to crawl out at the 100 point mark, we were stoked,

Event 7 -Mannel Motors Mine field- after watcin a feww trucks drive we picked our line, we headed in and ended up stopped at the 70 point mark, which we were fairly happy with,

Event 8 -Offroadimages Swamp run- We only saw a Jeep and a Hilux run it, so we went in hoopin the Carby motor would pull us through, as we got towards the end, we looked at the big climb out, it was a large vetricle step, we put the front up, and gassed it, the back end bounced up the 38's were biting on the top lip, when the carby again ran out of fuel, and we fell back in, but couldnt get it back out, so anyways, we pulled 99 points.

so we ended up with about 454 points out of 700 we were fairly happy with the 4th drive of the truck,

[Old Yella]

Thanks to the Nissan Patrol club for another great weekend

I had some good runs and some not so good

and a few sherbets with the fellas

but in general I had a ball talking to other competitors and watching the action.

[ET4Runner]

Well done ozy1


I was navi in car number 19, and virtually standard (actually, lower than standard!) with 32" simex's. The driver bought it a few weeks back for $500 (stuffed motor), and buys a motor off ebay for a measly $1. The he tells me on the way out to the event: "gee, I hope 4WD works, I've never actually engaged it!" We were the fifth in line, starting on event 3.

Event 3 -Pro Comp Criss Cross- Nice start, 4wd working (thank GOD!), get around the first loop, to get stuck on a boulder in the middle 5 pts.

Event 4 -4x4 Australia Off road Adventure- to quote ozy1: "as we attacked the first big climb, we managed to get just over the tree root at the top, where the carby ran out of fuel, i tried pumpin the throttle to get us up", we did a carbon copy, but didn't slide back too far, just got a nice lean on my side. 5 pts.

Event 1 -BIG W- Big delay due to the incident, so we had plenty of time to think about it. Brilliant navigating saw us past 5 pts (woo hoo!), charged over the rock before the lollipop man turned the sign around. After a short delay, down the hill, over the log, started up again and lost traction, hung up on a pebble. 40 pts.

Event 2 -Maquarie 4x4 Round-a-bout- Cancelled

Event 7 -Mannell Motors Minefield- the red MQ in front of us gave us no hints, so it was basically momentum or nothing for us. Got to jsut short of 30 when we went 3/4 way over, drivers side this time. Gave Miss Wendy my camera for some famous pics. 20 pts.

Event 8 -Offroadimages Swamp run- About 3 litres of WD40 later, we were ready. Then we saw the flat tyre (had to happen, with the whole weight of the car pushing on the sidewall in the wombat hole). Tyre changed in 4 minutes, back in line and into it. Great line through the first part, fell into a hole, stopped at 68 pts.

Event 5 -Hi Tech Automotive Stairway- we managed to BOUNCE our way to the 30 point mark, where we bounced out, but hey, we had fun too! 30 pts

Event 6 -ARB Trees Revenge- Watched the zook sit and spin on the line (reminded me of Skaifey at Bathurst :rolf: ), hmm, might need a punch up here. No probs, got to the 1st multi and I'm saying: "take your time, line it up", and next thing I know were on the log and going nowhere. Bugger 20 pts.

Not a great total, but we had a go at everything and came through relatively unscathed.

Now to work on the 4Runner....

[ET4Runner]

and a few sherbets with the fellas

but in general I had a ball talking to other competitors and watching the action.

Yep, couldn't agree more

Felt a bit on Sunday morning though.....

[CanberraMav]

ET4Runner wrote:
Event 6 -ARB Trees Revenge- Watched the zook sit and spin on the line (reminded me of Skaifey at Bathurst :rolf: ), hmm,

This was Zookjedi............he will try to blame it on small tyres but we all know he was just scared

ET4Runner were you in a White Mk/Mq?

[ET4Runner]

Sure was.

I told the club meeting last night it felt like being in a mini moke

[CanberraMav]

Ahh

I was the navi in the red Mk that you were following around all weekend. To say you bounced up the stairway was an understatment!!! You looked to be half a metre or so in the air.

[Madmac]

i had a great weekend, didnt quite get the results i was hoping for, but did gain more experience for future events. personally i hate the mud, and id like to see it get scrapped and replaced with some other event, and im sure that there is heaps of others that would agree with me. Mud sux, my rig survived everything else, alternator is now cactus and radiator needs removing and cleaning. it might be amusing for spectators but i reckon it does more damage than other events. IF YOU HATE THE MUD EVENT, POST UP AND LET THE ORGANISORS NOW ABOUT IT, if there is enpough people that would like to see it scrapped then maybe Miss wendy will take note and replace it with something else. the mud at the trials is evil, its full of sand that rips seals to bits, grinds in brakes and clogs everything, i can sort of understand why some guys give it a miss, its fawked my rig 2 years in a row, but if they dont scrap it, i will still run it again next year, will just yhave to budget for an alternator rebuild

[ET4Runner]

Yeah, cheers mate!! Felt a bit ballistic at the time I can tell you!! But it really took it's toll on the driver, he had a bad shoulder to start with and I thought I might get to drive Tree's Revenge after that

You guys seemed to go okay. Actually I was watching some of the red MK's efforts at Willowglen last night too. Very noice

[ET4Runner]

i had a great weekend, didnt quite get the results i was hoping for, but did gain more experience for future events. personally i hate the mud, and id like to see it get scrapped and replaced with some other event, and im sure that there is heaps of others that would agree with me. Mud sux, my rig survived everything else, alternator is now cactus and radiator needs removing and cleaning. it might be amusing for spectators but i reckon it does more damage than other events. IF YOU HATE THE MUD EVENT, POST UP AND LET THE ORGANISORS NOW ABOUT IT, if there is enpough people that would like to see it scrapped then maybe Miss wendy will take note and replace it with something else. the mud at the trials is evil, its full of sand that rips seals to bits, grinds in brakes and clogs everything, i can sort of understand why some guys give it a miss, its fawked my rig 2 years in a row, but if they dont scrap it, i will still run it again next year, will just yhave to budget for an alternator rebuild

Stop being a baby Madmac, you're just jealous 'cause I won the mud event at J5 and you didn't

[Madmac]

Yeah, cheers mate!! Felt a bit ballistic at the time I can tell you!! But it really took it's toll on the driver, he had a bad shoulder to start with and I thought I might get to drive Tree's Revenge after that

You guys seemed to go okay. Actually I was watching some of the red MK's efforts at Willowglen last night too. Very noice

bad shouler my arse, hes just got a soft rooster and small balls

[-Nemesis-]

Not sure how, but I think the mud run should be replaced with a mud run. Not a silty water hole run. Some nice slippery rutted track covered in slop Who know's how to build it though....

[Madmac]

i had a great weekend, didnt quite get the results i was hoping for, but did gain more experience for future events. personally i hate the mud, and id like to see it get scrapped and replaced with some other event, and im sure that there is heaps of others that would agree with me. Mud sux, my rig survived everything else, alternator is now cactus and radiator needs removing and cleaning. it might be amusing for spectators but i reckon it does more damage than other events. IF YOU HATE THE MUD EVENT, POST UP AND LET THE ORGANISORS NOW ABOUT IT, if there is enpough people that would like to see it scrapped then maybe Miss wendy will take note and replace it with something else. the mud at the trials is evil, its full of sand that rips seals to bits, grinds in brakes and clogs everything, i can sort of understand why some guys give it a miss, its fawked my rig 2 years in a row, but if they dont scrap it, i will still run it again next year, will just yhave to budget for an alternator rebuild

Stop being a baby Madmac, you're just jealous 'cause I won the mud event at J5 and you didn't

didnt see your 80 series out there competing

[Madmac]

Not sure how, but I think the mud run should be replaced with a mud run. Not a silty water hole run. Some nice slippery rutted track covered in slop Who know's how to build it though....

thats a good idea Bryan, shallow but boggy, but not deep enough to drown everything with water, but still challenging and slippery, i would vote for that

[ET4Runner]

Not sure how, but I think the mud run should be replaced with a mud run. Not a silty water hole run. Some nice slippery rutted track covered in slop Who know's how to build it though....

Yeah Nem, I know what you mean. Something that's more the Willowglen style; sort of what you might find out on a track, rather than driving through, around and in a dam. Problem is with the Trials is they can only work with what's on the SORRA property, which they hire, they don't own it.



As for you Mac, you can't say that about my driver, unless of course you've actually felt it and squeezed them

[Bunyip]

Yeah, cheers mate!! Felt a bit ballistic at the time I can tell you!! But it really took it's toll on the driver, he had a bad shoulder to start with and I thought I might get to drive Tree's Revenge after that

You guys seemed to go okay. Actually I was watching some of the red MK's efforts at Willowglen last night too. Very noice

what were you watching????? I'm guessing the latest DVD!!!!
nice to meet you BTW

[-Nemesis-]

With a finish similar to the mud run at Battle of the States (but harder) which is a steep smooth dirt hill (about 25m long) that has constant water pumped on to it. It's a bit like driving up a ramp covered in ice

[ET4Runner]

i had a great weekend, didnt quite get the results i was hoping for, but did gain more experience for future events. personally i hate the mud, and id like to see it get scrapped and replaced with some other event, and im sure that there is heaps of others that would agree with me. Mud sux, my rig survived everything else, alternator is now cactus and radiator needs removing and cleaning. it might be amusing for spectators but i reckon it does more damage than other events. IF YOU HATE THE MUD EVENT, POST UP AND LET THE ORGANISORS NOW ABOUT IT, if there is enpough people that would like to see it scrapped then maybe Miss wendy will take note and replace it with something else. the mud at the trials is evil, its full of sand that rips seals to bits, grinds in brakes and clogs everything, i can sort of understand why some guys give it a miss, its fawked my rig 2 years in a row, but if they dont scrap it, i will still run it again next year, will just yhave to budget for an alternator rebuild

Stop being a baby Madmac, you're just jealous 'cause I won the mud event at J5 and you didn't

didnt see your 80 series out there competing

You're right, it's way too pretty to be doing that.

One day, cometh the 4Runner.....

[ET4Runner]

nice to meet you BTW

Cheers Bunyip, likewise Yep, latest DVD direct from the producers (members of our club), for a handy little discount

[Madmac]

i had a great weekend, didnt quite get the results i was hoping for, but did gain more experience for future events. personally i hate the mud, and id like to see it get scrapped and replaced with some other event, and im sure that there is heaps of others that would agree with me. Mud sux, my rig survived everything else, alternator is now cactus and radiator needs removing and cleaning. it might be amusing for spectators but i reckon it does more damage than other events. IF YOU HATE THE MUD EVENT, POST UP AND LET THE ORGANISORS NOW ABOUT IT, if there is enpough people that would like to see it scrapped then maybe Miss wendy will take note and replace it with something else. the mud at the trials is evil, its full of sand that rips seals to bits, grinds in brakes and clogs everything, i can sort of understand why some guys give it a miss, its fawked my rig 2 years in a row, but if they dont scrap it, i will still run it again next year, will just yhave to budget for an alternator rebuild

Stop being a baby Madmac, you're just jealous 'cause I won the mud event at J5 and you didn't

didnt see your 80 series out there competing

You're right, it's way too pretty to be doing that.

One day, cometh the 4Runner.....

let me at it with the grinder, we will whip the IFS out and leaf spring it, can you believe that Shane is letting me attck his with the grinder on sunday, we are choppin the lower part of the well back off and modding the rear bar for woodpecker. its gonna be fun attacking some one elses rig with the grinder

[Bunyip]

IMHO mud, deep water, is all part of four wheel driving so if you enter in a FOUR WHEEL DRIVING COMP thats what you get maybe comps should have both mud and deep water crossing's BRING IT ON

just my 2 bob worth (i drove to both comps competed in everything then drove home) but like I said everyone to there own

[ET4Runner]

let me at it with the grinder, we will whip the IFS out and leaf spring it, can you believe that Shane is letting me attck his with the grinder on sunday, we are choppin the lower part of the well back off and modding the rear bar for woodpecker. its gonna be fun attacking some one elses rig with the grinder

Dream on!!! His missus would kill him, you know that

But we might just have a plan for the 4Runner....

[Madmac]

let me at it with the grinder, we will whip the IFS out and leaf spring it, can you believe that Shane is letting me attck his with the grinder on sunday, we are choppin the lower part of the well back off and modding the rear bar for woodpecker. its gonna be fun attacking some one elses rig with the grinder

Dream on!!! His missus would kill him, you know that

But we might just have a plan for the 4Runner....

I shit you not, he rang me earlier and asked if i would help him do it, its happening

[ET4Runner]

IMHO mud, deep water, is all part of four wheel driving so if you enter in a FOUR WHEEL DRIVING COMP thats what you get maybe comps should have both mud and deep water crossing's BRING IT ON

just my 2 bob worth (i drove to both comps competed in everything then drove home) but like I said everyone to there own

I'm hearin ya And let's not forget, that's what these rigs are built for.

Can you imaging what it would have been like in the 4WD pioneering days in the outback, in the '50's and '60's, days and weeks of conditions worse than what we endure for about an hour over a weekend, and they had to bush-repair everything??

Now THAT's 4wding