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What do you guys think about this?

Post by feroza_v8 »

I own a 91 Feroza with a 1.6L carbureted engine and thought trailing is not my thing. I'm considering drag racing as of the moment. My mods are as follows:

- 17" American Racing wheels
- SpiralMax Turbo Air Twister
- K&N replacement Filtercharger
- Upgraded headers, exhaust, and muffler
- Carbon Fiber hood
- Power Injector and Fuel saving gadget (added some HP and torque)

What else do you think would contribute to my ride's performance improvement?

I'm also considering getting a racing gearbox, an aluminum flywheel and aluminum pistons in the future.

Your replies would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Post by Skyzic »

I hate to sound like a prick but............WHY :?
I love my Feroza/US Rocky but I just cant see It on the strip..........in the woods yes but not on the strip

But if you just had to race the Feroza then Nitrux and a turbo comes to mind

Or better yet my Friend has a Geo Tracker with a chev 350 with the back wheel wells tubed for 50 inch Mickys it pulls mid 12's on the track
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Post by *BESTY* »

I gotta admit.....Skyzic is right !!

This is a 4WD Forum :twisted:

Have you tried looking at Drag Racing forums for the information you seek :?: :?:

If ya wanna drag car...then go out and buy one...but the Feroza/Rocky is an awesome 4 wheel drive ....... not a drag car :finger:
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Post by murcod »

feroza_v8 have you got any pics?

Besty and Skyzic, don't be too narrow minded- I'm sure the engine mods to increase power will be of interest/use to most people on here. ;)
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Post by *BESTY* »

murcod wrote:feroza_v8 have you got any pics?

Besty and Skyzic, don't be too narrow minded- I'm sure the engine mods to increase power will be of interest/use to most people on here. ;)


Take the tranny case out....remove front diff....... :finger: :finger:

I'm not being 'narrow minded'.....I just think that a 4WD Forum should be consistent with 4WDing. He's done pretty much all he can for the stock engine.....next step is to change to a bigger engine for more HP

As the topic says....What Do You Guys Think About This ?? - He's asking for opinions....I gave mine :!:
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Post by dubb »

Hey feroza_v8 wouldnt the high centre of gravity be bad for drag racing, even if u lower it a bit. You would be better getting a small sedan and wack the Feroza motor into it..then run it on Nitrox. :lol:
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Post by murcod »

There's plenty more scope for the factory engine. Aftermarket ECU's for a start- that way the timing can be computer controlled (that's where power gains can be made). Detomaso cams, larger throttle body, custom made extractors etc.

Centre of gravity isn't a problem for drag racing- there aren't any corners at a drag track! ;) I know of a Landcruiser ute that runs 12 second quarter miles and is used offroad as well.

There's also that white Feroza with the SR20 turbo engine- 12 second quarter miles too. Plus the other Feroza Rick's posted on the internet with the HD-E engine and a turbo off a WRX fitted.
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Post by dubb »

Point taken Murcod, would be interesting to hear of mods to the motor anyway. Im sure lots would be interested in extracting some more power out of it.
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Post by FEAROZA »

A drag racing feroza? Talk about this ultimate wolf in sheeps clothing! :lol:

I guess you would need to lower it massivly aswell - first time I've ever heard of anyone wanted to REDUCE the ground clearance on their feroza

Hey - if you do it I'll want to see some pics!
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Post by SimplyPV »

hmm.. i dont think to highly to the thought of drag racin a rocky.... but i'll say this.. whatever tickles ur pickle man...
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Post by Ferwoaza »

I like the idea! Has a ring of world domination about it...Feroza's in all motor sports :D
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Post by FEAROZA »

Ferwoaza wrote:I like the idea! Has a ring of world domination about it...Feroza's in all motor sports


hell yeah!
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Post by CRUSHU »

what is nitrux / nitrox?????
also, 4wd are quite well set up for drag racing, with short diff gears etc, and torquey motors. that is why there quite a few 12 secon and less 4wd's.
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Post by feroza_v8 »

Well, I had already tried trailing and realized it's not my thing. I'm in for all the speed, but not the bumpy bumpy 4wding. Turbocharging isn't in my list. I know it's gonna cost me a fortune to be able to get and fit a turbo into my ride. And fuel economy would be way poorer. I use my little truck everyday to school and a turbo isn't really an option here. :lol:

I've seen a couple of Honda CRVs, Toyota RAV4s, and Mitsubishi Pajeros on the strip. I think using a Feroza for drag racing doesn't make much difference. Anyways, it's bracket drag racing. What I'm against is my own quartermile time.

Thanks for all your opinions. I expect to hear more from you guys.

PS

I don't think I can post pictures now. I've got a really bad paint job and I will get it repainted in the next few months. Maybe black, I don't know.
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Post by feroza_v8 »

I forgot to mention, I can't use ECUs or other computer chips. I don't have a computer box. My engine's an HD-C, I think. It's got a carb. So maybe that's what the C in the engine's name stands for. :roll:
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Post by MJHsurfin »

More power in Feroza & heavy abuse = shredded Gearboxes !! :bad-words:
Just ask me - I learnt the hard way. 3rd Gear is the weakest - closely followed by 2nd. Feroza Gearbox is strickly light duty only - best bet is a complete engine / gearbox swap & like Besty said, ditch the front diff & Tx Case :D
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Post by feroza_v8 »

What would happen if I removed the transfer case and the front differential? Do I have to buy a new front differential? Or do I just have to remove it and everything's gonna fine?

Geez, I'm asking so many dumb questions. :oops:
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Post by feroza_v8 »

Do you guys know where I can get a cheap gearbox? My funds are low right now.
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Post by Le0n »

I wanna go the other way, convert my Laser to 4WD. Look good hey. 82 Model Laser with 31's :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post by Andy »

I've never heard of an economical purpose built fast car , I gave up my rights to speed and do burnouts when I bought a 4wd ( :lol: doesn't stop me try'n though :lol: )
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Post by Ferwoaza »

Damm right there Andy...ever since I got the extractors I keep finding myself at red lights reving it next to ricers :D
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Post by murcod »

Andy wrote: I gave up my rights to speed and do burnouts when I bought a 4wd ( :lol: doesn't stop me try'n though :lol: )


Ahhhh.... The secrets to only try doing them in the wet! :roll:

Feroza-V8 if you're trying to get more power on a budget then you'll need to be very good at DIY stuff. You could try to find a Detomaso Charade cam and fit it yourself. I don't know how the HD-C engine would run after fitting it though?

Any chance of finding a HD-E engine loom and computer at the wreckers? I think the HD-E is rated about 7kW higher output (?). The ultimate would be the Detomaso cam plus the Detomaso distributor/wiring harness/computer - that gives you the EFI with timing control.
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Post by ShinyDiscoBalls »

Le0n wrote:I wanna go the other way, convert my Laser to 4WD. Look good hey. 82 Model Laser with 31's :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



Imagine an F1 car with 4x4 conversion and 37's... :shock: I guess rollovers would just mean you'd have to do the rest of the trip upside down and in reverse :? :? :?
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Post by ShinyDiscoBalls »

But honestly dude, why don't you just go all the way with this... Chop the roof about 5 inches and lower the sills on the doors, lower the seats, extend the body so yu have more room behind the front seats and have a mid mounted V8 with the blower sticking out of the roof.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Sorry, once saw a Morris Minor panel van like that.... never been able to shake that image from my mind... :roll:
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Post by SimplyPV »

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: hell.. if he really wants to race it.. y dont he jus yank most of the body off an build a cage, then mid mount a v8 as mentioned before.... i mean.. come on... the rocky IS a trailer.... if ur not for that.. then i suggest u sell it to someone who'll use it for its true purpose an buy urself a lil p.o.s. honda... seriously! it'd be a heck of alot cheaper...
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Post by twinnie »

hello all

firstly the hight center of gravity would help times because more weight would go to the back wheels and make them grip better.

secondly any pics of the morris minor it sounds awesome

thirdly V8 my friend along with every one elce sell the fourby and but a nissan silvia or 180 sx that would serve you better on the track.

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Post by feroza_v8 »

Has anyone here thought of upgrading to MSD Ignition control system and ignition coils? Is the performance improvement worth it?
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Post by ShinyDiscoBalls »

twinnie wrote:hello all

firstly the hight center of gravity would help times because more weight would go to the back wheels and make them grip better.

secondly any pics of the morris minor it sounds awesome

thirdly V8 my friend along with every one elce sell the fourby and but a nissan silvia or 180 sx that would serve you better on the track.

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Sorry Matt, no pics of the morris minor... But I'll never forget the noise as that thing drove into the servo.... spoke to the guy for a while and apparently it pulled mid sevens on the quarter mile... and it also cost him $35 in fuel per 100 kms... and this was 11 years ago... :shock: :shock:
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Post by murcod »

feroza_v8 wrote:Has anyone here thought of upgrading to MSD Ignition control system and ignition coils? Is the performance improvement worth it?


If your standard system is OK then I don't think you'd notice any difference. The Feroza's have already got a high energy ignition system, the MSD's just pulse the spark and I doubt that would give you much of a power gain....

Maybe try looking into getting your distributor advance curve regraphed. That could be an area where you'd gain power- possibly not a large peak gain, but I'm sure the mid range could be improved.
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