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1HD-T to 1HD-FT?
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1HD-T to 1HD-FT?
ok so i have my 92 80 sahara (body/chassis/diffs/loom/fridge) but i need to buy another 80 for the donor parts (engine/box/links/tanks/interior)...
does anyone know if i can swap in the 1hdft (twincam turbo diesel?) in place of the 1hdt... will the looms be different since its basically the same engine to a point? and if so does anyone know what difference there is in the looms?
this is providing i can find one too... what model did these come out in?
cheers mark..
does anyone know if i can swap in the 1hdft (twincam turbo diesel?) in place of the 1hdt... will the looms be different since its basically the same engine to a point? and if so does anyone know what difference there is in the looms?
this is providing i can find one too... what model did these come out in?
cheers mark..
Last edited by mud4b on Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Shadow wrote:looms completely different
1hdfet is only in 100 series, and you need the loom all the way into the dash.
hmmmm maybe i got the type of engine wrong... im talking the twincam in the 80 series.... i know they have them..
1hdfet ? im sure its a 1hd-fte?
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1HDT is the origonal, 1HDFT is multivalve found in later 80 seriesmud4b wrote:Shadow wrote:looms completely different
1hdfet is only in 100 series, and you need the loom all the way into the dash.
hmmmm maybe i got the type of engine wrong... im talking the twincam in the 80 series.... i know they have them..
1hdfet ? im sure its a 1hd-fte?
1HDFTE is electronic injected found in 100 series
Shadow wrote:1HDT is the origonal, 1HDFT is multivalve found in later 80 seriesmud4b wrote:Shadow wrote:looms completely different
1hdfet is only in 100 series, and you need the loom all the way into the dash.
hmmmm maybe i got the type of engine wrong... im talking the twincam in the 80 series.... i know they have them..
1hdfet ? im sure its a 1hd-fte?
1HDFTE is electronic injected found in 100 series
righto, had the 1hdt... im after the multivalve... so its the 1hdft...
ill change it thanks bud.
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The biggest problem I've found with Toyota looms is that they change the plugs every few years , the colour coding on the wires generally stays the same though.It might be easier to get a 1HDT-FT engine loom from the wreckers and swap the joiner plug to fit your body loom.
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great replies people, so should not be too hard if i can find one...
hopefully ill find a complete wreck for the donor car so swapping things around should not be a problem (im great at wiring stuff).. so anything else anyone can think of?
cheers mark
hopefully ill find a complete wreck for the donor car so swapping things around should not be a problem (im great at wiring stuff).. so anything else anyone can think of?
cheers mark
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dow50r wrote:the hdft has no glow plugs...even easier to wire up same block, bigger turbo/multivalve/hard to find cheap, hdt is not such a bad motor...
yup knew that but was just wanting to go the multi if i could find one... already had the 1hdt and yup it was great.
so does anyone know what year model / name 80 they came out of?
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1HD-FT engine came out in the 1995 - 1998 HDJ80's.
Direct bolt in swap, minor wiring changes, particularly to glow screen and SICS vac solenoids - both easily overcome.
And it's not a twin cam! Single cam with bridged actuators to operate 24 valves.
Not sure what sort of benefit you expect over the 1HD-T for the $ it will cost?
Direct bolt in swap, minor wiring changes, particularly to glow screen and SICS vac solenoids - both easily overcome.
And it's not a twin cam! Single cam with bridged actuators to operate 24 valves.
Not sure what sort of benefit you expect over the 1HD-T for the $ it will cost?
Greg G
2000 HDJ105
2000 HDJ105
hdj105 wrote:1HD-FT engine came out in the 1995 - 1998 HDJ80's.
Direct bolt in swap, minor wiring changes, particularly to glow screen and SICS vac solenoids - both easily overcome.
And it's not a twin cam! Single cam with bridged actuators to operate 24 valves.
Not sure what sort of benefit you expect over the 1HD-T for the $ it will cost?
glow screen and SICS vac solenoids ? is that a huge restrictor in the inlet/x over pipe?
yup i did realise it was not a twincam..i stuffed up..
the dollars is not really meaningful. i have to find a donor 80 anyway so i thought i would look for one of these and not just a 1hdt.. it all depends on what i can find..
cheers for the info
mark
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Glow screen is the intake preheater, more for emmissions reduction than starting, just forget to wire it up ;-)mud4b wrote:
glow screen and SICS vac solenoids ? is that a huge restrictor in the inlet/x over pipe?
mark
SICS is start injection control system, a vac actuator on the injection pump that reduces the cold start black smoke puff, also controlled by the glow controller and vac switching valve - this can also be forgotten about if required.
Greg G
2000 HDJ105
2000 HDJ105
I dropped a 1HD-FT into my 70 series, no big problems with wiring.
I used my original wiring loom and didnt wire up the glow screen and SICS. I used a couple of the senders out of the original motor so that I didnt have to change plug ends. pretty simple stuff.
I'd do it if you can find a 1HD-FT, they do come up, you've just got to be patient.
I used my original wiring loom and didnt wire up the glow screen and SICS. I used a couple of the senders out of the original motor so that I didnt have to change plug ends. pretty simple stuff.
I'd do it if you can find a 1HD-FT, they do come up, you've just got to be patient.
Smithie...how do u keep the front wheels on the ground m8...smithie wrote:I dropped a 1HD-FT into my 70 series, no big problems with wiring.
I used my original wiring loom and didnt wire up the glow screen and SICS. I used a couple of the senders out of the original motor so that I didnt have to change plug ends. pretty simple stuff.
I'd do it if you can find a 1HD-FT, they do come up, you've just got to be patient.
You've got to lean as far forward as possible
Its actually not that bad, I was up in the high country on the long weekend and did some pretty steep tracks (Mt Terrible-MtSkene-Howitt High Plains-Wonnangatta-Talbotville-Dargo High Plains-Hotham) and it never felt like coming up at the front.
The extra power is great for long steep hills, did most of it easily in 2wd.
PS: Sorry for the hijack...
Its actually not that bad, I was up in the high country on the long weekend and did some pretty steep tracks (Mt Terrible-MtSkene-Howitt High Plains-Wonnangatta-Talbotville-Dargo High Plains-Hotham) and it never felt like coming up at the front.
The extra power is great for long steep hills, did most of it easily in 2wd.
PS: Sorry for the hijack...
smithie wrote:You've got to lean as far forward as possible
Its actually not that bad, I was up in the high country on the long weekend and did some pretty steep tracks (Mt Terrible-MtSkene-Howitt High Plains-Wonnangatta-Talbotville-Dargo High Plains-Hotham) and it never felt like coming up at the front.
The extra power is great for long steep hills, did most of it easily in 2wd.
PS: Sorry for the hijack...
go for it bud...its all good..
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_RYAN_ wrote:if you require a 1hdft feel free to ring or e-mail me
0738652900
ryan@citypartsplus.com.au
i do but i need a whole donor car bud, not just the engine..
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_RYAN_ wrote:Do you only need motor, box, tanks and trim etc?
Ive got a few 80 seriers left out the back, im pretty sure ive got a sahara aswell.
i need trim/ interior, engine, panels, gearbox tcase, drive shafts...
whats left on the sahara? very keen...
i only have the locking diffs, stripped body, some interior, fridge,chassis.. nothing else..
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_RYAN_ wrote:I will go see whats left and pm you, im pretty sure its got no panel left though.
would be much appriciated... aslo a price for the multivalve engine please..
or package deal on what you have got.. need fuel tanks too.
cheers bud
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_RYAN_ wrote:I will go see whats left and pm you, im pretty sure its got no panel left though.
how did you go with this bud. have pm,d you also?
cheers mark.
ryan...
bud do you want to sell this engine or what????
mate i only need the engine now, can exchange a 1hdt engine complete if you need a exchange or can just pay outright.
cheers mark
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