ive done a search but didnt really come up with what im after.
ive got a 85 tin top with the basic steel dash but i want to change it with the plastic one if its possible?
anyone know if its easy enough?
i mostly want the tacho and the round vents so i spose i would have to swap the whole lot across?
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changing the dash in a 85 zook
changing the dash in a 85 zook
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my 85 model got a plastic dash so's my sons 84 model you quite certain you have a 85 model and not a 82/3mod 
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a dash is worth about $120 then you have to buy a speedo/tach $150 
wish i could spell a dash is worth about $120 then you have to buy a speedo/tach $150 slugs are just snails that sold their belongings for drug money
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so was that it is possible or not?
the dash that spamwell posted up is the one i want to change.
both are NT so i think it might work??
the dash that spamwell posted up is the one i want to change.
both are NT so i think it might work??
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This is the red hardtop right?
IMHO the answer is no, not really. There are a fair few differences behind the dash of a 1.3 and a 1.0 - heater box, dash support bar, pedal box configuration, HVAC duct configuration. Some of these are associated with the change to boosted brakes.
Also, the loom is quite different.
It's possible, but a big job. It's likely that once you got it done, heaps of stuff would be floppy and not work.
Personally I think the best wsay of doing it woudl be to lift the whole firewall and trans tunnel from a 1.3, but it might not be worth doing that much work to your rough tub.
Steve.
IMHO the answer is no, not really. There are a fair few differences behind the dash of a 1.3 and a 1.0 - heater box, dash support bar, pedal box configuration, HVAC duct configuration. Some of these are associated with the change to boosted brakes.
Also, the loom is quite different.
It's possible, but a big job. It's likely that once you got it done, heaps of stuff would be floppy and not work.
Personally I think the best wsay of doing it woudl be to lift the whole firewall and trans tunnel from a 1.3, but it might not be worth doing that much work to your rough tub.
Steve.
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how much different is the loom? im confident in rewiring stuff but if its going to be like 100 wires or something then i probably couldnt be bothered.
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it can be done, swapped my 84 steeldash with a plastic 86 in my tintop. You need to weld on some supports right under the windshield. If I remember right the bar that goes from side to side is the same on 84 and 86. But the steeringcolumn is different, so is the pedalassembly. Oh and the heaterassembly is different. I used the 86 assembly, but had to use the 84 blower. And the blower need to be placed on the opposite side.
I also have the brakebooster and assembly from the 86. Only thing that doesnt work 100% is the fresh or recycle switch. fresh is where the recycle icon is and vice versa, but thats it
does it make sence?
I also have the brakebooster and assembly from the 86. Only thing that doesnt work 100% is the fresh or recycle switch. fresh is where the recycle icon is and vice versa, but thats it
does it make sence?
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you didnt get any pics of you doing it did you?
what do you mean the pedal assembly is different?
how much different is the steering column
what do you mean the pedal assembly is different?
how much different is the steering column
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no, sorry no pics. Only one of it complete installed. but it looks like it would stock so no use in that
Dont remember excactly what the difference in the pedal assembly was, but I do remember I had to shorten the arm that the clutchwire attatch to, since it would hit the airintake for the heater. Think that arm was on the oppsite side on the 84. But then again this might not trouble you, since you have the steeringwheel on the wrong side
The steeringcolumn goes trough the firewall a little different. I took off the stock 84 plate that was on the firewall, and welded a 86 413 plate on it. Then adjusted the holes. It is a couple of centimeters
Dont remember excactly what the difference in the pedal assembly was, but I do remember I had to shorten the arm that the clutchwire attatch to, since it would hit the airintake for the heater. Think that arm was on the oppsite side on the 84. But then again this might not trouble you, since you have the steeringwheel on the wrong side
The steeringcolumn goes trough the firewall a little different. I took off the stock 84 plate that was on the firewall, and welded a 86 413 plate on it. Then adjusted the holes. It is a couple of centimeters
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because of the change to boosted brakes, the relationship between the steering column and brake pedal had to change, along with the hole size and bolt pattern for the booster. The meanst that the under dash bar is differentand the column must be different as the steering shaft exits the firewall lower to go under the booster.j-top paj wrote:you didnt get any pics of you doing it did you?
what do you mean the pedal assembly is different?
how much different is the steering column
The end result is that there are lots of differences under dash, add in that the 1.0 dash is welded in, the HVAC system is quite different (more dash vents in the 1.3) the looms are different... it never ends.
Basically, IMHO it would be easier to swap the firewall between a NT or WT and the 1.0litre than try to swap dashes.... then you have to wonder if its better to swap the whole tub to get the wider tunnel etcetc.
Personally, I quite like to oldskool look of the 1.0 dash, especially the base model dash without the grab handle and the dash padding, haveing said that a NT dash is quite pretty without a radio in it - it has a nice clean line. They look crap with the radio bezel slung under the dash IMHO.
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there is also a small pannel, that comes out from the bottom of the pillars on a 1.3L. you'll need this to fit the dash easly.
IMO it would be easyer to stay with the 1.0L dash as i have done, even though i have now got a 1.3L fire-wall.
but if you are HELL-BENT on changing the dash, get a donor car and sit them beside each other, so that you can see the difference. and then you'll have everything that you'll need for the conversion.
Mitch
IMO it would be easyer to stay with the 1.0L dash as i have done, even though i have now got a 1.3L fire-wall.
but if you are HELL-BENT on changing the dash, get a donor car and sit them beside each other, so that you can see the difference. and then you'll have everything that you'll need for the conversion.
Mitch
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got both cars here.mugginsmoo wrote: get a donor car and sit them beside each other, so that you can see the difference. and then you'll have everything that you'll need for the conversion.
from what ive seen it seems doable, but i havnt pulled anything apart yet
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