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Cardinal joint rebuild

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Cardinal joint rebuild

Post by MissDrew »

Anybody else done this?

How much is the bearing in the middle and is it just a ball with needles inside it?

Oh and did you (that have done it) have trouble getting it apart? Man what a Cookie of a job :bad-words: But now that I have pulled one apart it would be much easier if and when I ever have to do it again.


I think this is what was making the BAD clunking I had when in 4x4. I pulled rear shaft out and put front on stands and got the wife to sit in the lux with her foot on the break while it was idealing in 1st low. Every time it went clunk the joint would jump, but it was hard to tell if the noise was from the joint or from the t case. Anyway I`ll soon know when I put it back together and put it back in the lux.
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Post by Area54 »

My front shaft makes the same noise at the double cardan, makes the clunk just turning it over by hand.
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Post by Bluey »

my hilux clunked in 4wd. was spines on front axle, real worn and could move it side to side by hand. :bad-words:
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Post by MissDrew »

The only part of my front shaft that isn`t BRAND new is the cardinal, but that is about to change.

My old front spline would move about 10mm side to side or up down which ever way you wanted to push it :roll:
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Post by MissDrew »

Area54 wrote:My front shaft makes the same noise at the double cardan, makes the clunk just turning it over by hand.
Mine would only do it while under load, but it was super loud
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Post by beebee »

Go a square shaft in the front. It's only when it STOPS clunking that you have a problem :D
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Post by MissDrew »

beebee wrote:Go a square shaft in the front.
If I only did crawling then I possibly would, but I am changing a few things on the rig so that it can do winch challenges as well as rocks. Square shaft spinning fast I don`t think so
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Post by beebee »

Guts wrote:
beebee wrote:Go a square shaft in the front.
If I only did crawling then I possibly would, but I am changing a few things on the rig so that it can do winch challenges as well as rocks. Square shaft spinning fast I don`t think so


Agreed. I'll eventually change back to a standard shaft but it's a great temporary solution.
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Post by 1MadEngineer »

its generallynot the ball that wears rather the centering pin, so usually has to be built up with weld and re-machined then fit new ball and uni's as per std shaft. i did the rear on mine except i used a hard facing rod so next rebuild all you do is through the ball and no machining :lol:
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Post by bazooked »

unless u go genuine the only balls u can get have a bronze bush inside them u guy in the east should be able to get them from driveline in queensland.
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Post by dave »

If you think it was a bitch to get apart wait till you try and get it back together :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: have fun
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Post by dumbdunce »

<anal mode> can you at least call it by its actual name. it is a Double Cardan Joint. a Cardan Joint is a universal joint. There is no such thing as a "Cardinal Joint" unless you're talking about a Catholic priest smoking a reefer! </anal mode>


PS yes they are the sucks to pull apart.
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Post by Area54 »

dumbdunce wrote:<anal mode> can you at least call it by its actual name. it is a Double Cardan Joint. a Cardan Joint is a universal joint. There is no such thing as a "Cardinal Joint" unless you're talking about a Catholic priest smoking a reefer! </anal mode>


PS yes they are the sucks to pull apart.


Yep, you could also call it a Double Hook joint.

Double Hook...hmmm

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Post by 2car »

Area54 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:<anal mode> can you at least call it by its actual name. it is a Double Cardan Joint. a Cardan Joint is a universal joint. There is no such thing as a "Cardinal Joint" unless you're talking about a Catholic priest smoking a reefer! </anal mode>


PS yes they are the sucks to pull apart.


Yep, you could also call it a Double Hook joint.

Double Hook...hmmm

Arh, if'n isn't tark loik a poirate day!


That would be double Hooke's joint. The joint was invented by Girolamo Cardano in Italy, and first put into practice by Robert Hooke in the UK.
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Post by MissDrew »

dave wrote:If you think it was a bitch to get apart wait till you try and get it back together :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: have fun
I got weak and gave it to the shaft shop today for them to do it :D I was going to do it myself but my brother inlaw couldn`t find the parts to order :roll:
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Post by dave »

Its a prick trying to hold the center bearing together will you try to put the new uni's in.You took the best option let someone else pull there hair out will you sit back and have a cold one.

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Post by MissDrew »

I`ll have about 20 cold ones while they do it :lol:

Then I`ll get all heated up when I have to pay them :bad-words: , notice I called it "shaft" shop :roll: They do very good work but fark their dear cause they are basicly the only shop in Albury that does good shaft work.
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