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What would YOU do?

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Post by suzuki boy »

My motor is gone and it's been sittin for a while and i'm gettin pissed off that i'm not wheelin......

My options are....
1 can get all the gear i need and with a rebuild kit for $600 but i gotta put it all together!

2 Get a block and i can get a gbigger cam with nikki carby's and stuff for around $400 again gotta put it together and might have to buy a rebuild kit!

3 Wait till i find a cheap second hand i can drop straight in!

4 Bite the bullet and buy a full reco motor! About $1200

5 i can get a ute that a guy was workin on slowly is unregistered and doesn't have a tray BUT has a carolla motor and a few other things i wouldn't mind like the ute body and stuff......For $900!

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Post by waandy »

buy another zook. u can neva hav enuf.lol
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Post by jimbo jones »

buy the other zook
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Post by BenT »

6. Throw the old motor away and put in a 1600 :D

Or, if money is tight, option 3, then refer to option 6 later.
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Post by Spike_Sierra »

do not do number 5.

i would buy the vit motor on ebay atm...600 bucks, or 1200 buy it now.
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Post by want33s »

Number 3..
then when its shagged...
number 3.
then number 3
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Post by dank »

Nath you can pick up a good second hand block from a swift or barina for no more than 400 bucks. All you do is then swap all the zook bits onto that block and there you go done. Do that buy the ute, swap the diff centres so you have locked diffs and the low range tranny and then sell the shorty and you'll come out on top.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Are you sure the ute is still available? If it was worth buying I think it might have sold yesterday.

Based on price and the photo's I have seen, the ute you are talking about is way beyond a sensible amount of work for what you want to do. Engine mounts, driveshafts, a tray, + a 1.3, and engineers certificate, reg, and gazillions of other little things. Trust me, I've done it. (for me it was worth it, but I didn't already have a built, registered 1.3)

Just get a second hand 1.3 (or a reco 1300) and get back on the road. Any other option is more $$$ and stuffing around.

DO NOT stuff around with tuning the 1.3, I don't mind 1.3's for what they are but, but IMHO in a 4WD a motor that goes is better than a high performance motor that doesn't.

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Post by 6rxhx »

you can buy a bare block at pick a part for 60 bucks, out of a suzuki swift which they have plenty of.

Or you can buy the complete motor for 190, with accessories. Just got to look at the kms and check under the airfilter, usually if its oily in the airfilter its not worth pulling out.

I did that with mine, my motor cracked a piston, so i bought a block for 60 bucks, swapped the head, sump etc. The motor has more compression now than new - runs perfect on premium.

Its a good idea to pull the head off and check the bore before you buy, alot of their motors get water in them from sitting around. Cylinder bores start pitting with rust.
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Post by ScrawnC »

want33s wrote:Number 3..
then when its shagged...
number 3.
then number 3

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Post by Pyrotech »

id be inclined to steer away from the rebuild, i did mine about 2 years ago, as it turns out would have been cheaper to buy 2 complete engines and just swap them over...

id just look for a cheap one mate

just my $0.02

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Post by rustyzook »

number 3

then number 3

then number 3 again

im on my 2nd number 3 lol
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Post by sierrajim »

Gwagensteve wrote:Are you sure the ute is still available? If it was worth buying I think it might have sold yesterday.

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We looked at it, he didn't buy it.

Cab is clean, chassis is clean. Motor possibly has more blow by than exhaust. There is WAY more work getting this ute to a RWC standard than replacing a motor in your current car.

Chase up a 2nd hand engine, swap it in. Its an EASY job and shouldn't cost you too much.
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Post by suzuki boy »

sierrajim wrote:
Gwagensteve wrote:Are you sure the ute is still available? If it was worth buying I think it might have sold yesterday.

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We looked at it, he didn't buy it.

Cab is clean, chassis is clean. Motor possibly has more blow by than exhaust. There is WAY more work getting this ute to a RWC standard than replacing a motor in your current car.

Chase up a 2nd hand engine, swap it in. Its an EASY job and shouldn't cost you too much.
The one in Kilmore? So the engine was on it's last legs you reckon? Wasn't gunna get that Road worthy was gunna drop the engine and stuff into mine......

6RXHX where did you get one that cheap? Do they still have em?

I'm a 2nd year app and money isn't that easy to come by i'm only 19 so drink a bit would be cuttin down on that to save! :oops:

This will be my 3rd engine.......
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Post by zook4fun »

if its your 3rd engine pit a door stop under the peddel, might make the engines last longer :)

just find a swift engine people can't give the single cam engines away ( except to zook owners) i picked up a engine that was 10,000 for $200 with heaps of other stuff.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

OK, let's assume you did buy that tray. WTF???? it ran a 4K corolla motor??? Why would you put that in a 1.3? Only Grimbo was that tight, and even he used a 5K.

There's lots of barinas/swifts in pick a part with G13's in them. If youre up for the labour that's how to get it going cheap. It's a bit of work though - sump, pick up, pulleys, camshaft, manifolds, flywheel.

Good learning experience though, just be sure your carby, alternator etc is all i good nick now or you'll just transfer the problems.

You're also seem to be going through a few motors there, maybe look at sealing, fuel and oil quality, cooling, and driving style.

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Post by suzuki boy »

Cheers steve just have heard the corolla motors go well in the zooks!

The first motor was on it's last legs when i got it then then went to rebuild but the bore was rooted and found a 2nd hand engine cheap!

This motor has lasted a while (Year and a half!) i change the oil every 4 or 5 trips but the carby was playin up lately so need a new one of them!

I put it down to it revvin it's head off on the highway then ideling in the bush? Must admit it used to get a caining before the gearing was sorted out but the last 4 months of it's life was snow techical drivingso ideling and down hill using the engine as braking! WOULD THIS KILL IT QUICKER?

I'll post up for a cheap motor i can drop in for now then hopefully when that go's i will be qualified and wack a 1.6 or something in!

DOES ANY ONE HAVE A DECENT ENGINE OR DECENT BLOCK THEY WANNA SELL?

I will also post in wanted bit!
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Post by want33s »

Theres been a few on Ebay lately but I thought you said a while ago you had one organised so I didn't PM a link to you..
I'll keep my eyes open for you... Buying a smashed Swift for a few hundred may be your best bet.
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Post by 6rxhx »

suzuki boy,

$60 was the price for all bare 4 cylinder blocks at pick a part in cambellfield or kilsyth

Only thing , you have to pull it out.

$195 or there abouts was the price for a complete engine with accessories.

You just have to look at the swifts they have, there is always a few. Find a lowish km one, pull it out.

i think they had a price increase a while ago - 10% or something.
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Post by sierrajim »

suzuki boy wrote:
sierrajim wrote:
Gwagensteve wrote:Are you sure the ute is still available? If it was worth buying I think it might have sold yesterday.

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We looked at it, he didn't buy it.

Cab is clean, chassis is clean. Motor possibly has more blow by than exhaust. There is WAY more work getting this ute to a RWC standard than replacing a motor in your current car.

Chase up a 2nd hand engine, swap it in. Its an EASY job and shouldn't cost you too much.
The one in Kilmore? So the engine was on it's last legs you reckon? Wasn't gunna get that Road worthy was gunna drop the engine and stuff into mine......

6RXHX where did you get one that cheap? Do they still have em?

I'm a 2nd year app and money isn't that easy to come by i'm only 19 so drink a bit would be cuttin down on that to save! :oops:

This will be my 3rd engine.......
yes, the car at lancefield. Great base but LOTS of work. I still think it's good value.
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Post by suzuki boy »

Well depending on frieght price i think i have a rebuilt 1.3 i can drop in and keep on wheelin!

Hopefully lasts till i finish my app then think about a 1.6 or something! ;)

THANKS HEAPS GUYS!
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