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40 series indicator woes

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40 series indicator woes

Post by pig in shit »

hi everyone
ok well anyone that knows a forty reasonably well would know that the wires running to the indicator go out through the side of the firewall and up the inside of the bolt that holds the indicator down. this leaves the wires open underneath the guards.
now my problem that i am always having is breaking the wires and having to constantly fix them.
and before you ask, yes my tyres are probably to big, as they are what causes them to break when the tyre is pushed into the guard.
but im not out to buy new tyres.
just curious if anyone has done something to pass this problem like running the wires elsewhere.
i have heat shrinked/insulation taped/ duct taped/ cable tied etc etc all to no avail

any help appreciated.
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Re: 40 series indicator woes

Post by loosecanon »

hey mate, just silicone them so they run out of the way, and that way they won't flap and move around, and should offer some short time protection against the big tyres, at leaset for a bit, or look at putting on 75 series indicators,
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Re: 40 series indicator woes

Post by Shadow »

bump stops to stop the tyre hitting the guard?
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Re: 40 series indicator woes

Post by skootin »

75 ser blinkers on the upper gaurds.
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Re: 40 series indicator woes

Post by TWISTY »

Yeah, get rid of them, I now run no factory 40 lights, and the whole setup is so much more reliable. Used to have heaps of dramas keeping the guard mounted ones, and the tail lights working properly.

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Post by bj on roids »

75 series lights
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Re: 40 series indicator woes

Post by pig in shit »

bj on roids wrote:75 series lights
do these have the same 3 wire setup
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Post by Tojo »

Use double insulated electrical wire from the factory lights through to the connection inside the engine bay. It is a lot tougher than the factory wiring. I don't like the look of 75 series lights on a 40, i reckon it spoils that classic 40 look.
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Post by hj 45 »

I rewired mine with a separate ground wire going back into the loom, also commoned up each metal light housing so you don't have that annoying flicker with the park lights. They now work as they should. As for the loom hanging under the guard, well I don't know.
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Post by loosecanon »

hey twisty

what headlights are you running?? there obviously not standard
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Post by pig in shit »

Tojo wrote:Use double insulated electrical wire from the factory lights through to the connection inside the engine bay. It is a lot tougher than the factory wiring. I don't like the look of 75 series lights on a 40, i reckon it spoils that classic 40 look.
i have found that you can only use a thin wire as you have to fit 3 of them through the middle of the bolt, unless you drill the hole a bit bigger i suppose.
and yes i havent ever been much of a fan of the 75s lights on a 40. still dont know if im convinced to use them.
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Post by TWISTY »

loosecanon wrote:hey twisty

what headlights are you running?? there obviously not standard
2nd down on the left here
http://www.brightlightautoparts.com/Headlights.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They look good, but with the bulbs they supply, the light output is terrible. Not sure if its the globes/wiring or the lense.
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Post by loosecanon »

cheers for the link,

knowing that the light output is pretty average, is there any other recomendations??

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Post by BadMav »

I remounted the base plates in the side of the indicator housing and bolted them into the side of the top part of the guard. Easy mod to do but they still got smashed up as you can see...

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I repainted the old beast and soon ditched them for small led indicators and the headlights had parkers anyway.

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Post by croozy »

They were the first things to get shifted when I rebuilt my shorty all those years ago.
This is what I originally did
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I'm making a new bar so it has gone to this now, still unfinished at the moment.
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Post by mellows40 »

As you can clearly see we all have had dramas with the idicator light set up.. I used heat shrink over the wires on mine and then clipped them to the guard edge it is a slightly longer set of wires but utilizing the edge of the guard keeps the 40 look but provides wire protection.. that works for me. but more extensive changes can be done to rid the problem totaly.. any of the other ideas are all great. but it all depends on what you want and find easiest for you.. enjoy
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Re: 40 series indicator woes

Post by pig in shit »

mellows40 wrote:As you can clearly see we all have had dramas with the idicator light set up.. I used heat shrink over the wires on mine and then clipped them to the guard edge it is a slightly longer set of wires but utilizing the edge of the guard keeps the 40 look but provides wire protection.. that works for me. but more extensive changes can be done to rid the problem totaly.. any of the other ideas are all great. but it all depends on what you want and find easiest for you.. enjoy
yep i figured it would be an across the board problem.
i am not much of a fan of these aftermarket led lights and what not that other people have used instead, i like the factory lights.
ill have to keep playing around with the wires until i find something that works.

or ill buy some bump stops :P
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