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Are you sure? - I doubt that for a military 109 - more like 1800+popeye wrote: 1600kg soft top loaded
RUFF wrote:Beally STFU Your becoming a real PITA.
yeah, its about right. I have weighed it twice, same both times.Are you sure? - I doubt that for a military 109 - more like 1800+
but noticably worse on the highway.Thats not bad! Cant complain to much there.s3111107@ wrote:Stock 89 3.5 efi with long range tank got 700km from 97ltrs on last trip from Adelaide to Melbourne, loaded with gear = 13.85ltrs per 100 sitting on ave 115km/h
best ive done on highway = 13.3ltrs per 100
around town more like 15 - 20 ltrs
Decent figures reason for not touching anything yet as motor is still very strong after 257,000km
Military landies are heavier than the same body type in civi - stock for stock. Military landies have a one-ton chassis with extra reinforcing, heavy bullbar, extra axle-tube reinforcing, extra electrics (blackout lights, etc...). A mates stock x-mil IIA (converted to a ute with canvas canopy), tips the scales at 1970kg (with 2 31" spares).popeye wrote:yeah, its about right. I have weighed it twice, same both times.Are you sure? - I doubt that for a military 109 - more like 1800+
no way 1800kg that is fat ???
if anything the mil spec would be lighter as they are stripped of anything not essential.
RUFF wrote:Beally STFU Your becoming a real PITA.
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.Hot air = better economy? How the hell do you figure? hot air will make it run richer, meaning you'll be under acceleration for longer. The colder air is, the denser it becomes, and the more power you get (assuming it doesn't go too lean, which is unlikely) If you assume fuel to be a constant, you get more power with colder air, and you accelerate for a shorter time, due to the extra power.removed engine fan for noise but also good for econ
also i dont know if this is right but hot air = better economy
ie: snorkles not the best for hwy
big tyres suck
power steer + air con suck
full time 4wd sucks
old school efi sucks
carbies suck
extra weight sucks
yep... with a stock 29" tyre and with 37's now, that is around 30% difference..BIg StEvE wrote:Yer i reckon i was waiting for someone to bring this up.landy_man wrote:are you guys measuring your km's with a gps or off the speedo... because if it is with speedo, dont forget that different tyre sizes will change your speedo reading in km/h and distance travelled...
on 35's and 4.11 diffs my speedo is 100% and with 33 it's 5% underlandy_man wrote:are you guys measuring your km's with a gps or off the speedo... because if it is with speedo, dont forget that different tyre sizes will change your speedo reading in km/h and distance travelled...
s3111107@ wrote:Stock 89 3.5 efi with long range tank got 700km from 97ltrs on last trip from Adelaide to Melbourne, loaded with gear = 13.85ltrs per 100 sitting on ave 115km/h
best ive done on highway = 13.3ltrs per 100
around town more like 15 - 20 ltrs
Decent figures reason for not touching anything yet as motor is still very strong after 257,000km
yeah, but you only have 2 pedal positions... on or offmickrangie wrote:on 35's and 4.11 diffs my speedo is 100% and with 33 it's 5% underlandy_man wrote:are you guys measuring your km's with a gps or off the speedo... because if it is with speedo, dont forget that different tyre sizes will change your speedo reading in km/h and distance travelled...
I could be wrong but this is how i figure it : hot air is less dense than cold air. efi systems will definatly pick up on this and pump less fuel. dont know how carbies deal with the situation. less power = better economy. the air fuel ratio will (should) remain the same but volumetric efficiency will drop hence the drop in power and the increase in economy. Dont know about acceleration but you dont do much on the hwy, mostly constant throttle. FWIW i'd rather have the extra power. i have fitted a vp commo fan - no dramas with overheating (except when i forget to turn it onHot air = better economy? How the hell do you figure? hot air will make it run richer, meaning you'll be under acceleration for longer. The colder air is, the denser it becomes, and the more power you get (assuming it doesn't go too lean, which is unlikely) If you assume fuel to be a constant, you get more power with colder air, and you accelerate for a shorter time, due to the extra power.
As far as removal of engine fan - if you get stuck in traffic, be careful. If you do only highway driving, there is no reall problem with removing the fan, but if you have stop start driving, be careful. Perhaps fit thermo fans off something?
)series 2 landies had a completely different chassis to the series3, which could account for the weight differance, also holden mtr.Military landies are heavier than the same body type in civi - stock for stock. Military landies have a one-ton chassis with extra reinforcing, heavy bullbar, extra axle-tube reinforcing, extra electrics (blackout lights, etc...). A mates stock x-mil IIA (converted to a ute with canvas canopy), tips the scales at 1970kg (with 2 31" spares).
I drive the 90 everywhere so fuel economy is AU$21/100km (£0.969/L, ~2.35 exchange rate)I drive 99% on gas, so my fuel ECONOMY is $10/100km (50c/L)
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