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Advice on Salisbury Axles

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Advice on Salisbury Axles

Post by djam1 »

Guys I put a detroit locker in the back of a Series 3 Stage 1 and I was wondering if anyone had done this without changing the axles? I was considering Maxis or Jack Mack but Over the years I have never seen a broken Salisbury Axle. Do I need to change these I only run the original size tyres?

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Post by ISUZUROVER »

I know people who have fitted detroits to a salisbury with stock axles without problems.

I managed to break a non-genuine axle in my salisbury on 32's when it was unlocked - if you have genuine axles you should be fine though.
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Post by jbell »

I'm running 34jt2's with a detroit locker & standard axels
in my V8 county with no problems. Been in 2 years..
I asked jack mac about stronger axles & all he said
was, why did you break one?? Just buy a new one!!

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Post by rick130 »

I've heard of a couple of NPWS crew cabs breaking them, but how were they driven ??

The only reason we swap them out in Defenders is 'cause the bloody axle splines are dry from the factory and they wear out. Convert to oil lubed axles (like in your Stage 1 or a 110) and no more problems (after fitting Maxi axles)
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Post by sclarke7171 »

Where can i get a Detroit for a Salisbury and roughly how much??
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Post by djam1 »

I bought mine from Locked Drive Systems in Sydney it cost me $903 to the door http://www.locked-drive.com.au/
The performance increase in the leaf sprung stage 1 is fantastic you will need to get use to a few creaks and crunches and accept that it will add more driveline backlash to something that already has too much. I have been told that the army are removing thier ARB lockers and replacing them with Detroit Lockers.
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Post by cloughy »

djam1 wrote:I bought mine from Locked Drive Systems in Sydney it cost me $903 to the door http://www.locked-drive.com.au/
The performance increase in the leaf sprung stage 1 is fantastic you will need to get use to a few creaks and crunches and accept that it will add more driveline backlash to something that already has too much. I have been told that the army are removing thier ARB lockers and replacing them with Detroit Lockers.
Ithought the army had detroits alreay not arb's, More backlash? a detroit should of helped to reduce it, who set your diff up?
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Post by djam1 »

Cloughy
The diff setup has nothing to do with the backlash in the detroit mechanism
To quote the detroit manual
"Backlash or slack between the driving and driven clutch teeith is an inherent part of the Detroit Locker and necessary to permit automatic operation when driving in forward and recerse. The total backlash in the driveline is increased by the amount of the reduction between the ring gear and pinion. If the ring gear to pinion ratio is 5 to 1 the total backlash in the driveline with a Detroit Locker would be about 30 degrees. This in turn is increased by the clearances between planetary gear, sliding splines and ring and pinion gear. We feel that the total driveline slack can amount to as much as 1/4 of a turn of the driveline without being abnormal." Combine this with the backlash in an LT95 and it takes some getting use to.
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Post by cloughy »

djam1 wrote:Cloughy
The diff setup has nothing to do with the backlash in the detroit mechanism
To quote the detroit manual
"Backlash or slack between the driving and driven clutch teeith is an inherent part of the Detroit Locker and necessary to permit automatic operation when driving in forward and recerse. The total backlash in the driveline is increased by the amount of the reduction between the ring gear and pinion. If the ring gear to pinion ratio is 5 to 1 the total backlash in the driveline with a Detroit Locker would be about 30 degrees. This in turn is increased by the clearances between planetary gear, sliding splines and ring and pinion gear. We feel that the total driveline slack can amount to as much as 1/4 of a turn of the driveline without being abnormal." Combine this with the backlash in an LT95 and it takes some getting use to.
Was asking who set it up because EXCESSIVE backlash will usually be caused from incorrect crownwheel to pinion contact or worn cross pin and or thrust washers in the centre, obviously you don't have the later. ifully understand the ramping effect needed for locking a detroit but i've driven on a few and never found them to be worse than a 20 year old centre, only better for backlash
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Post by jbell »

sclarke7171

got mine from oppitsite lock $1200. supplied & fitted
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Post by F'n_Rover »

jbell wrote:sclarke7171

got mine from oppitsite lock $1200. supplied & fitted
Can't you get an ARB for the same sort of $$$ ??
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