7.8hp winch motors

Post by **Big Red Toy** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:02 pm

I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated

INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can

Cheers
Andrew

Post by **Evil 73** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:16 pm

Big Red Toy wrote:I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated

INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can

Cheers
Andrew

The only thing that would pull harder and faster than a 7.8 hp would be you Andrew.

Ben

Post by **tna racing** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:56 am

Evil 73 wrote:
Big Red Toy wrote:I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated

INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can

Cheers
Andrew
The only thing that would pull harder and faster than a 7.8 hp would be you Andrew.

Ben

haha thats funny. big red tools all right leave him alone lol

Post by **WelchyGQ** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:02 am

the only ones i have found are from a company in NZ called taxion - got close to $1000 by the time all charges where paid.

Post by **Big Red Toy** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:40 pm

WelchyGQ wrote:the only ones i have found are from a company in NZ called taxion - got close to $1000 by the time all charges where paid.

Sweet, thats the answer i wanted

Cheers

Post by **ludacris** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:59 pm

The 7.8 hp motors are good. Been running mine for 2 years of comps on 12v and not a problem. Why not just grab the 24v 7.8hp. It will pull harder than the 6hp on 24v as it is the hp that it all comes down to.

The only problem I found with mine was I had to space the rear end plate. Not a problem really.

LudaCris

Post by **mudtoy** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:57 pm

double roller bearings
epoxy dipped armature
increased brush contact area
bolted and welded field connections

4.8, 6.8 & 7.8 in 12 and 24V

rated at 10,000 rpm no load (7.8 24V)

We may be doing something to get them here a lot cheaper.

Post by **Evil 73** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:04 pm

adam penfold wrote:
Evil 73 wrote:
Big Red Toy wrote:I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated

INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can

Cheers
Andrew
The only thing that would pull harder and faster than a 7.8 hp would be you Andrew.

Ben

haha thats funny. big red tools all right leave him alone lol

Get a room!!!!!!!!

Ben

Post by **WelchyGQ** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:56 pm

Mud toy,

when will you maby be doing this?
any details?
Pm me about it if you could please?

Post by **Big Red Toy** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:40 pm

Cool, so they sound like a top motor

Post by **The_Wazza** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:14 am

mudtoy wrote:double roller bearings
epoxy dipped armature
increased brush contact area
bolted and welded field connections

4.8, 6.8 & 7.8 in 12 and 24V

rated at 10,000 rpm no load (7.8 24V)

We may be doing something to get them here a lot cheaper.

Recently sent one of my Twin Mototr Adapters to NZ. He'll be running x2 7.8 motors. Can't wait to see the result!!

Post by **mudtoy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:50 pm

We should see this winch in action in a few weeks at the Rotorua winch challenge...

Post by **killbill** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:26 pm

These motors are obviously not warn motors.my question is can the be put on a warn winch?

Post by **gqpete** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:44 pm

killbill wrote:These motors are obviously not warn motors.my question is can the be put on a warn winch?

yep, they look like a 4 horse black plain motor external. bolt straight on and been around for a few years now.

Post by **killbill** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:51 pm

Do u know of anyone running them at the moment Pete?

Post by **ads80** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:02 pm

have heard rumors people tried putting 24v thru a 12v and didnt last long

Post by **beretta** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:34 pm

Lots of people putting 24v thru 12v motors mate, probably the greater majority of the trucks in the Outback Challenge do this to get more gonads out of their winch motor. Nothin new.

Post by **killbill** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:38 pm

Hey berretts how u doing Killbill here from group B outback 07 how did u enjoy it?Are u coming back next year?
I heard your making some enhancements to winches would like to find out more

Post by **beretta** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:51 pm

G'day Bill, had heaps of fun mate, bloody muddy in that paddock for a few days, still trying to get that viewmont shity mud off the drizabone!

Mate I'll send you an email to catch up.

Cheers, Beretts

Post by **mudtoy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:28 pm

These motors are not Warn but will bolt straight up to a premiere, superwinch, warn and others...yes we have heard a rumour that someone put 24V through a 12V and burnt it out...but we know for a fact that Warns burn out on a regular basis at any voltage under comp situations...whilst that is easy to say (and we do see it regularly), it also needs to be taken into account that Warn motors are the main ones being used under these conditions...so any quoted statistics or anecdotal evidence or opinions or heresay should be taken with a grain of salt...

...all we are saying is that these look like a great alternative and we are trying to get some out here to give them a serious testing...I have seen them used extensively in another country but I do want to see how they go here.

If we can get them cheaper than a Warn motor or similar...and they perform better...would people be interested?

Post by **Ruffy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:37 pm

WelchyGQ wrote:the only ones i have found are from a company in NZ called taxion - got close to $1000 by the time all charges where paid.

Beretta off here was looking at them some time ago.. Might be worth a PM to see if he's got anywhere with them.

EDIT

oops should have kept reading!

Post by **killbill** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:45 pm

Does anyone know how much these motors (7.8hp) are ?

Post by **gqpete** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:03 pm

killbill wrote:Does anyone know how much these motors (7.8hp) are ?

bill. get one of these motors 12v (they rev) and a set of albrites from beretta and your away. if thats not enough double up above and get addaptor off wazza then your set

Post by **mudtoy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:15 pm

We are still waiting to hear back from the supplier and will then coordinate a local importer/distributer...as soon as we have prices and any other info, I will post it up...the positive thing is that people are interested...

Post by **WelchyGQ** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:12 am

mudtoy,

definatly interested if the priece is right. Just wondering what sort of time frame we are lookign at?

Welchy

Post by **mudtoy** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:54 pm

We have a meeting overseas this Monday with the supplier...will know more then.

We are looking at asap...but that said we want to get some out here first for testing and hook up a distributor.

Cheers,
Simon.

Post by **Bluey** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:22 pm

good news mudtoy. i'm in the market for upgrading my winch, and a 7.8hp motor would be very cool

cheers
Bluey

Post by **WelchyGQ** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:55 am

do you need any volunters for the testing process?

Any idea yet as to what price, rough enough is good enough atm?

Welchy

Post by **mudtoy** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:26 pm

Just back from OS...all is looking good and will put up approximate prices shortly.

Found out that these have been used in winch challenges in NZ for ten years without failure. The only problems are when you put 24 through a 12...they do it but are not guaranteed.

The 7.8 24V gives the biggest increase in both torque and no load speed...apparently very noticeable.

The 7.8 12V is only slightly quicker at no load, but under load the extra torque really shows...and from what we discussed they have a far superior duty cycle and are tougher...and I'm talking long deep sticky NZ mud pulls.

Cheers,
Simon.

Post by **chunderlicious** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:52 am

very interested, does anyone have a load speed comparo (i know its hard but roughly the same conditions and setup)

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