hilux engine debate: whats best

Post by **83-mud-lux** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:45 pm

im looking for more power and torque from my hilux (4y petrol) without huge mods done to it so thought i would bring thus debate up:
wat is the best engine in a luxy.

plenty of people hav said 2 put either a 1uz or a commonwhore v6 in it but dot want to go to that extreme.

im keen on the 2.8 diesel with aftermarket turbo an intercooler but cant find anyone to tell me how they go and wats involved in the swap so any info will be appreciated. thank u

Post by **hilux79** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:24 pm

If your after something that accelerates fast I'd say you would be disappointed with the diesel. Mine puts out good power for a turbo 2.8 (100 rwhp) and has no problem sitting on 110kph + just not as much punch as I would like but hopefully one day I will pull that and put a 3rz in it.

That would be my recommendation. The 3rz seams to be the best bang for buck conversion in my opinion. There has been a few threads lately on them if you have a search there is some really good info.

Post by **thehanko** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:28 pm

had a 4y, now have a 2.8 turbo. I would not spend the money to convert to this.

I love my lux and prefer the diesel for its torque and they run much more consistently. no cold start carbie rubish etc.

but as for perfromance they are not very different, the 4 y might even be a little quicker to the hundred but i cant compare them side by side.

either go a commo or the hilux 2.7 petrol as recommended. they can make pretty good power i hear.

Post by **macca81** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:37 pm

1kz or a 1kd

Post by **mrRocky** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:18 pm

fuel injected VN 5.0 V8

Post by **thrashlux** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:05 pm

if you want a turbo diesel get a factory turbo motor more power more reliability more fuel enconomy

if you want a cheap easy petrol get a 3rz

if you want a diesel 1kz

Post by **83-mud-lux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:35 am

i hav decided to go 2.7 petrol cus few other people i hav been talking to also say there the best conversion.

would any1 no approx. price on a 2.7 and where would i find them.
thx ..TYBO..

Post by **Willy Hilux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:55 am

you have pm

Post by **booflux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:31 pm

Sounds like you made the right choice I wouldnt even put a commo 6 in the same comparison as a 1uz imo its closer to the 3rz and I would choose it over the commo pos anyday

Post by **macca81** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:09 pm

booflux wrote:Sounds like you made the right choice I wouldnt even put a commo 6 in the same comparison as a 1uz imo its closer to the 3rz and I would choose it over the commo pos anyday

course a commo 6 aint a comparison to a 1uz and is closer to a 3rz, a 3rz is a v6 where a 1uz is a v8!

Post by **Struth** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:12 pm

mrRocky wrote:fuel injected VN 5.0 V8

VT

Post by **booflux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:27 pm

macca81 wrote:
booflux wrote:Sounds like you made the right choice I wouldnt even put a commo 6 in the same comparison as a 1uz imo its closer to the 3rz and I would choose it over the commo pos anyday
course a commo 6 aint a comparison to a 1uz and is closer to a 3rz, a 3rz is a v6 where a 1uz is a v8!

No a 3rz is a 2.7 4 cylinder and still a better motor than a commo 6
Most people compare the commo 6 and 1uz swaps why I dont know as the 1uz is so far ahead its not funny, the 5.0L commo motor is a better comparison.

Post by **macca81** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:01 pm

oops, my bad

i dunno why you would go to the effort of getting a commo v6 in when ya can put in the 1uz and most things bolt up...

Post by **tez** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:05 pm

IS there much stuffing around converting one to a 3rz 2.7? Ive taken a bit of interest in it now

Post by **Kingston_99** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:03 pm

haha you can have my 3rz after i put a 1uz in as i want more power and not happy with the 3rz.......jokes

i have the 3rz motor and its not bad mate, good engine but i dont think there that all great of an engine.
if i was doin an engine conversion on any lux i would much prefer an 1uz.

Post by **Tower** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:18 pm

as he said he doesnt want to go the the extremes of a 1uz or commo v6, my mate had a 3rz and he went well plenty of power if thats what your interested in go for it.

Post by **woodbutcher** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:08 pm

booflux wrote:Sounds like you made the right choice I wouldnt even put a commo 6 in the same comparison as a 1uz imo its closer to the 3rz and I would choose it over the commo pos anyday

X2 The 1Uz is a lot cheaper to covert (doing it all your self) uses half the fuel of the commo V6. and although Mine is not Mod plated yet the conversion in total cost me $2500 (the same price as just buying the marks adaptor kit for the V6) so in my opinion the 1UZ was a good choice for me

Post by **Struth** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:20 pm

Just plonk a 308 on gas in there, extremely basic conversion and heaps more power

Post by **thrashlux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:25 pm

Struth wrote:Just plonk a 308 on gas in there, extremely basic conversion and heaps more power

than what a 3rz?

1uz has 190kw bog stk and is only 4l all alloy

Post by **mrRocky** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:39 pm

what good is 190kw when you only have 2Nm of torque

Post by **83-mud-lux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:51 pm

i would love to put a 1uz in and it might not b that expensive but its not possible 4 me cus i cant drive the dam thing lol im only on my learners and i cant hav a mod plate or drive a v8 till my opens so i hav a long time to wait.

so i wanted to put the 3rz cus its fairly basic conversion and looks fairly original when the police open the bonnet more than a v6/v8 anyway lol

Post by **thrashlux** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:59 pm

mrRocky wrote:what good is 190kw when you only have 2Nm of torque

which 308 are you talking about they range from 122k-187kw std form around 320 -397nm in std form and on gas?????

1UZ early 190kw late 216 kw
early 353nm late 407nm

and they have 4 cams no push rods

power is the rate it which torque is applied and you have only got a few of thousand rpm of working range in the 308 or you bend push rods or the lifters pump up which ever happens first

Post by **mrRocky** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:10 pm

ive driven a few luxs with 308's / 253's and 1uz running haltech with 200hp at the wheels and the holden V8's are a lot quicker even on gas.
sure the 1uz is quad cam blah blah blah they are slow and expensive.

Post by **Barno111** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:16 pm

Mate solve all your problems just put a LS1 in it! or even go to http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/ Just check out what they have! maybe get them to crate a engine over for you! Anyway happy looking

Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:26 am

i useto have an 18r that pulled 14.3 down the quater on 33' but it would only run on bp ultimite was cool to drive but expensive to build

it had a trd head of a track speck celica flat top pistons a custom cam
and shit loads of other things

Post by **woodbutcher** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:19 am

83-mud-lux wrote:i would love to put a 1uz in and it might not b that expensive but its not possible 4 me cus i cant drive the dam thing lol im only on my learners and i cant hav a mod plate or drive a v8 till my opens so i hav a long time to wait.

so i wanted to put the 3rz cus its fairly basic conversion and looks fairly original when the police open the bonnet more than a v6/v8 anyway lol

Not sure what the new rulings are now but was told the otherday that now there is a limit on what car you can drive by the power output (e.g 200KW) not sure how accurate this info is but makes more sense than just saying you can't drive a V8 or Turbo car.

Post by **booflux** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:32 am

mrRocky wrote:ive driven a few luxs with 308's / 253's and 1uz running haltech with 200hp at the wheels and the holden V8's are a lot quicker even on gas.
sure the 1uz is quad cam blah blah blah they are slow and expensive.

Each to their own I guess I could argue with you but why bother

All I will say is I would never run a commo 5L over a 1uz.

Post by **Struth** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:01 am

booflux wrote:
mrRocky wrote:ive driven a few luxs with 308's / 253's and 1uz running haltech with 200hp at the wheels and the holden V8's are a lot quicker even on gas.
sure the 1uz is quad cam blah blah blah they are slow and expensive.
Each to their own I guess I could argue with you but why bother All I will say is I would never run a commo 5L over a 1uz.

And I would never run a 1UZ over a commo 5L

Post by **thrashlux** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:11 am

woodbutcher wrote:
83-mud-lux wrote:i would love to put a 1uz in and it might not b that expensive but its not possible 4 me cus i cant drive the dam thing lol im only on my learners and i cant hav a mod plate or drive a v8 till my opens so i hav a long time to wait.

so i wanted to put the 3rz cus its fairly basic conversion and looks fairly original when the police open the bonnet more than a v6/v8 anyway lol
Not sure what the new rulings are now but was told the otherday that now there is a limit on what car you can drive by the power output (e.g 200KW) not sure how accurate this info is but makes more sense than just saying you can't drive a V8 or Turbo car.

yes the new rulings will be interesting to see
it always baffled me how you could drive a lotus elise or westfield clubman capable of 13 second quarter miles
but not a HQ holden with a 253 traumatic auto with 2 barrel Rochester that could not pull a sailor off your sister

Post by **booflux** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:52 am

Struth wrote:
booflux wrote:
mrRocky wrote:ive driven a few luxs with 308's / 253's and 1uz running haltech with 200hp at the wheels and the holden V8's are a lot quicker even on gas.
sure the 1uz is quad cam blah blah blah they are slow and expensive.
Each to their own I guess I could argue with you but why bother All I will say is I would never run a commo 5L over a 1uz.
And I would never run a 1UZ over a commo 5L

Yeh but your "special"

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