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Post by mike_nofx »

Are WT and NT 1.3 diff centres the same, as far as for fitting a lockright go?

(sorry, couldnt find the info in a search!)

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Post by 31zook »

Are you talking about 1.3 NT and 1.3WT being the same or just about fitting lockers? A lockright will fit any zook diff im pretty sure even 2 pinions. shep will back that up...
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Post by sheps »

31zook wrote:Are you talking about 1.3 NT and 1.3WT being the same or just about fitting lockers? A lockright will fit any zook diff im pretty sure even 2 pinions. shep will back that up...
yep the lockright without coupler will fit a wt 2 pin diff
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Post by mike_nofx »

Yes 1.3 NT and 1.3 WT.

So they are the same...

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Post by Moph »

Is there likely to be any difference in diff strength running 2 pinion vs 4 pinion? Only because I have a 4 pinion rear diff centre here that I could mix 'n match with my 2 pinion front diff centre to end up with a 4 pinion front.... not sure if it's best to do that though or just install the locker as 2 pinion??? :?
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Moph wrote:Is there likely to be any difference in diff strength running 2 pinion vs 4 pinion? Only because I have a 4 pinion rear diff centre here that I could mix 'n match with my 2 pinion front diff centre to end up with a 4 pinion front.... not sure if it's best to do that though or just install the locker as 2 pinion??? :?
will defo be stronger with 4 pinion. Just pull both diffs apart and put the front side gears in the rear diff. Or even better just runa complete rear diff in the front with chromos and a lokka :D
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Post by lump_a_charcoal »

kEEP IN MIND lOCKRIGHTS CAN BE EXTREMELY TEMPREMENTAL... Damnit caps lock - im not typing all that again...

Anyway once I got my lockright installed I went from enjoying driving my zuk to hating it. Replacing the lockright with an airlocker was the best mod I have done.


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Post by dank »

lump_a_charcoal wrote:kEEP IN MIND lOCKRIGHTS CAN BE EXTREMELY TEMPREMENTAL... Damnit caps lock - im not typing all that again...

Anyway once I got my lockright installed I went from enjoying driving my zuk to hating it. Replacing the lockright with an airlocker was the best mod I have done.


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It should read..."Be warned if it's not set up right"

A lockrite set up correctly and driven accordingly will be fine on the road. Those that whinge about them mustn't be setting them up right. Mine was sweet on the road. Don't have issues like airlines being ripped out and other associated factors with an airlocker. I have lockrite rear, airlocker front...Good combo.
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Post by lump_a_charcoal »

It was set up right, but anything like a slightly bent axle or a difference in tyre diameter can make them misbehave...

I don't doubt that there are thousands in use with no issues, just relaying my bad experience.

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Post by nicbeer »

in the front - make sure u got power steer or like to hang off the wheel
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Post by mr green »

lump_a_charcoal wrote:kEEP IN MIND lOCKRIGHTS CAN BE EXTREMELY TEMPREMENTAL... Damnit caps lock - im not typing all that again...

Anyway once I got my lockright installed I went from enjoying driving my zuk to hating it. Replacing the lockright with an airlocker was the best mod I have done.


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x2. i had a lockright in my first zook when i bought it. broke the pins twice. got sick of driving it ( doing a 160km RT to work everyday). when i eventually bit the bullet and bought an air locker even my wife was happy with the improvement for the money. i guess if you had a lockright laying in your toolbox as as ornament you might put it on but i personally would NEVER spend money on a lockright, to me your nearly halfway to buying you air locker and you will be more than twice as happy.
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Post by 31zook »

I had an auto lokka in the rear. It was sucked but i then found that one of my thrust washers had died so that was why it was clicking when i changed gears. Tyre pressure makes heaps of difference! and being smooth through corners... all my problems made me change back to an open diff... but you won't have those problems in the front...
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Post by sheps »

i would like to replace the lockright in my rear diff, but the front is fine.

mine randomly leaps sideways, luckily there is no traffic where i live does suck
a bit when towing a trailer though.
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Post by mike_nofx »

I had to ask the Q because i am selling one, (one i bought for a WT, but never fitted) and someone asked if it would fit an NT.

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Post by 31zook »

sheps wrote:i would like to replace the lockright in my rear diff, but the front is fine.

mine randomly leaps sideways, luckily there is no traffic where i live does suck
a bit when towing a trailer though.
You need to shim it up. To get the correct shim count you need a dial gauge to measure the amount of movement inside the lockwrong. it takes time but from what i've heard its well worth it. I saw a dial gauge and magnet stand for $50 the other day... will buy it soon enough
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Post by sheps »

31zook wrote:
sheps wrote:i would like to replace the lockright in my rear diff, but the front is fine.

mine randomly leaps sideways, luckily there is no traffic where i live does suck
a bit when towing a trailer though.
You need to shim it up. To get the correct shim count you need a dial gauge to measure the amount of movement inside the lockwrong. it takes time but from what i've heard its well worth it. I saw a dial gauge and magnet stand for $50 the other day... will buy it soon enough
it has done about 50000ks so i expect that it would be getting a bit worn. next
time i pull the diff apart will be to stick a air locker in. ;)
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Post by GRPABT1 »

sheps wrote:
31zook wrote:Are you talking about 1.3 NT and 1.3WT being the same or just about fitting lockers? A lockright will fit any zook diff im pretty sure even 2 pinions. shep will back that up...
yep the lockright without coupler will fit a wt 2 pin diff
Can a lockright with couplers to suit 26 spline chromo front axles still fit a 2pin front diff or not?
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GRPABT1 wrote:
sheps wrote:
31zook wrote:Are you talking about 1.3 NT and 1.3WT being the same or just about fitting lockers? A lockright will fit any zook diff im pretty sure even 2 pinions. shep will back that up...
yep the lockright without coupler will fit a wt 2 pin diff
Can a lockright with couplers to suit 26 spline chromo front axles still fit a 2pin front diff or not?
dont see why not. if i pull my finger out and stick an air locker in i will see if
the locker will fit in one of my spare diffs.
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Post by mike_nofx »

what about sj40 or sj410? Same lockright part?
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Post by Pat Murray »

Dare I say there is a little too much negativity about LockRights? I may just be fortunate, but have been running a pair of 'em for over 160,000 km. now with absolutely no dramas. And the rear was secondhand when I bought it! Whatever works for each person, I guess.
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Post by mike_nofx »

Negative is usually from those who have just forked out thousands for air lockers!

Personally i love the welded lockers!! only cost as much as a few electrodes and a spare arvo.
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