Suspension Stuff Challenge 6th Feb 2010 Round 1

[67boogieman]

i was amazed becauce i thought the maxium anybody could get was 100 points

but what jason bailey driving(2nd place geter)

[OIIIIIIIO]

i was amazed becauce i thought the maxium anybody could get was 100 points

but what jason bailey driving(2nd place geter)

Bruce, didnt you get third?? even thou you had alot of stop reves pen's?? thats pretty good.

[OIIIIIIIO]

i was amazed becauce i thought the maxium anybody could get was 100 points

but what jason bailey driving(2nd place geter)

Ever1 was scored evenly and fair no matter what!

[OIIIIIIIO]

WTF is going on with the board on the scenic rim website its all over the shop, how can ppl be scoring over 200 for the first stage when it was only out of 100???? WTF, and how did ppl beat me who's cars where out with a blown pinion??? come on, soming funny is going on there, either scores are stuffed up or something

Everone was scored evenly and fair and had points taken off for the right reason.

[67boogieman]

yes i did and we know that everbody (except AE lol) was just jugde and scored with the same 2 eyes even though u were thrown in deep end at the last minute

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i was amazed becauce i thought the maxium anybody could get was 100 points

but what jason bailey driving(2nd place geter)

Green XJ Jeep Cherokee

[67boogieman]

another bloody jeep

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Some vids of the weekend..

http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu35 ... im%20Comp/

[cristian]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

[OIIIIIIIO]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

Cristian once agin you guys forget,
minus 1point for stopping
minus 1 point for revs
minus 1 point stacking
minus 2 points removing things outer the way points taken off for who had bigger then 33"
points taken for twin AIDED diff's MUST have one open
minus 20 points for chicken run [ in other words going off the offical track]
If i remember correct you had no turning circle and you did shit loads stopping reves, you gotta use forwad gears, or perhaps buy something that has tight turning circle. Look at bruce he came third i think he did well with turning.
Everyone got scored even across the board fairly and squarely.

[cristian]

I finaly know how we get scored. No one said anything on the day n when I asked other competitors they themselfs had no idea. Would b good if someone could post up a set of legit rules ect so everyone knows.

[cristian]

Or if there is already one. Where can I get a copy?

[Suspension Stuff]

Or if there is already one. Where can I get a copy?

Ask Brenden, maybe send him a private message. He is the one who started this thread.

Shane

[rockcrawler31]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

Cristian once agin you guys forget,
minus 1point for stopping
minus 1 point for revs
minus 1 point stacking
minus 2 points removing things outer the way points taken off for who had bigger then 33"
points taken for twin AIDED diff's MUST have one open
minus 20 points for chicken run [ in other words going off the offical track]
If i remember correct you had no turning circle and you did shit loads stopping reves, you gotta use forwad gears, or perhaps buy something that has tight turning circle. Look at bruce he came third i think he did well with turning.
Everyone got scored even across the board fairly and squarely.

you make me laugh.

1. first of all it's a bit unprofessional for a marshal to say " you got a shit ........." - it's enough to say you got penalties for stop/reverses

2. Luke probaly one of the few guys out there who's been honest enough to abide by the rules and the spirit of the comp since it started. He's only ever used one diff lock, and he's been one of the most vocal in calling for the mandatory visable disabling of a second locking device in that class. If he saw you talking this way i'd be very surprised if he manages to hold back.

3. Since when does someone get 150+ points for a stage? I was under the understanding that the maximum was 100. Not only that i've never ever heard of a comp giving minus points for a stage. Otherwise you would be better off just skipping a stage to get 0 points. Kinda defeats the avago attitude we all like to foster doesn't it?

Edit: I'm not saying that you gave Luke penalties for all the listed types but and i'm not even disagreeing with them. But from all accounts and from the past events i have attended i've been somewhat bemused by some of discrepancies in the scoring and results

[Suspension Stuff]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

Cristian once agin you guys forget,
minus 1point for stopping
minus 1 point for revs
minus 1 point stacking
minus 2 points removing things outer the way points taken off for who had bigger then 33"
points taken for twin AIDED diff's MUST have one open
minus 20 points for chicken run [ in other words going off the offical track]
If i remember correct you had no turning circle and you did shit loads stopping reves, you gotta use forwad gears, or perhaps buy something that has tight turning circle. Look at bruce he came third i think he did well with turning.
Everyone got scored even across the board fairly and squarely.

you make me laugh.

1. first of all it's a bit unprofessional for a marshal to say " you got a shit ........." - it's enough to say you got penalties for stop/reverses

2. Luke probaly one of the few guys out there who's been honest enough to abide by the rules and the spirit of the comp since it started. He's only ever used one diff lock, and he's been one of the most vocal in calling for the mandatory visable disabling of a second locking device in that class. If he saw you talking this way i'd be very surprised if he manages to hold back.

3. Since when does someone 150+ points for a stage? I was under the understanding that the maximum was 100. Not only that i've never ever heard of a comp giving minus points for a stage. Otherwise you would be better off just skipping a stage to get 0 points. Kinda defeats the avago attitude we all like to foster doesn't it?

Len turned up to watch the buggies but ended up Marshalling. He scored fairly and then handed the sheets in, on his sheet it didn't have the scores. He deducted points for those that had a locker and LSD and had talks to people who had lockers front and rear. Len did not make the rules and did not add up the scores.

If you don't make the first checkpoint but you have stops and reverses you can go negative.

Shane

[banks001]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

Cristian once agin you guys forget,
minus 1point for stopping
minus 1 point for revs
minus 1 point stacking
minus 2 points removing things outer the way points taken off for who had bigger then 33"
points taken for twin AIDED diff's MUST have one open
minus 20 points for chicken run [ in other words going off the offical track]
If i remember correct you had no turning circle and you did shit loads stopping reves, you gotta use forwad gears, or perhaps buy something that has tight turning circle. Look at bruce he came third i think he did well with turning.
Everyone got scored even across the board fairly and squarely.

who the F**K do u think u are putting down other people 4x4s,
this isnt tuff trucks, everyone is out for a laugh and a bit of fun, we DONT need people like u giving negitive comments,

other than that, now someone has given rules we can abide by them, i was under the impression that most of u were, like the 2nd track, track was 90 points if u did the bonus line that was 10 points giving u 100 point,

happy wheeling, look for to seeing you all next time

cheers

[rockcrawler31]

some stuff about a good old fashioned bun fight

All fair enough. Look i'm not going to get too involved as i wasn't there. It may well have been nothing to do with Len, but somewhere further up the scale. I can say that i've been a little curious about the scores from the events i have been to, and not just mine (in case you think it's just sour grapes)

As far as negative points are concerned. Well that's pretty daft. You may as well just DNS the stage, and what's the point of that. Zero should be the limit of penalties.

[Suspension Stuff]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

Cristian once agin you guys forget,
minus 1point for stopping
minus 1 point for revs
minus 1 point stacking
minus 2 points removing things outer the way points taken off for who had bigger then 33"
points taken for twin AIDED diff's MUST have one open
minus 20 points for chicken run [ in other words going off the offical track]
If i remember correct you had no turning circle and you did shit loads stopping reves, you gotta use forwad gears, or perhaps buy something that has tight turning circle. Look at bruce he came third i think he did well with turning.
Everyone got scored even across the board fairly and squarely.

who the F**K do u think u are putting down other people 4x4s, wat driver where u so we can pic a downside to ur car? u were probs that Wanker with the shit zuki with ur lill goggles on that took forever to do every track then complain when someone when around a part of the track,
this isnt tuff trucks, everyone is out for a laugh and a bit of fun, we DONT need people like u giving negitive comments,

other than that, now someone has given rules we can abide by them, i was under the impression that most of u were, like the 2nd track, track was 90 points if u did the bonus line that was 10 points giving u 100 point,

happy wheeling, look for to seeing you all next time

cheers

He is the Marshall that people are accusing of being unfair. It is best if you edit your post.

Shane

[rockcrawler31]

Somethings not right with that scoring ay. Oh well. Elmo -8 is that possible?

Cristian once agin you guys forget,
minus 1point for stopping
minus 1 point for revs
minus 1 point stacking
minus 2 points removing things outer the way points taken off for who had bigger then 33"
points taken for twin AIDED diff's MUST have one open
minus 20 points for chicken run [ in other words going off the offical track]
If i remember correct you had no turning circle and you did shit loads stopping reves, you gotta use forwad gears, or perhaps buy something that has tight turning circle. Look at bruce he came third i think he did well with turning.
Everyone got scored even across the board fairly and squarely.

who the F**K do u think u are putting down other people 4x4s, wat driver where u so we can pic a downside to ur car? u were probs that Wanker with the shit zuki with ur lill goggles on that took forever to do every track then complain when someone when around a part of the track,
this isnt tuff trucks, everyone is out for a laugh and a bit of fun, we DONT need people like u giving negitive comments,

other than that, now someone has given rules we can abide by them, i was under the impression that most of u were, like the 2nd track, track was 90 points if u did the bonus line that was 10 points giving u 100 point,

happy wheeling, look for to seeing you all next time

cheers

whoah there fella. we appreciate the thought and i think there needs to be frank discussion but there's no need for name calling. Len was a marshall, not a driver. I'm pretty sure he was also just pointing out what he thought was a drawback for Luke, He just wasn't very tactful about it. And god knows i know what it's like not having a flair for tact

[banks001]

k thanks for clearing that up, i just dont understand why he would be putting people cars down, "like get a car with a better turing circle" or "you got to use forward gears"

im not the type to arc up at this sort of situation, but i just find it a tad unsportsmen like,
hasnt changed my mined on the comp, great much of blokes i met out there and will be out there for the next round

bit more organisation would be good i think we all amy agree?

on the day len was a good bloke had a lill talk to him

cheers

[OIIIIIIIO]

Cristian i wasn't having a go at you or running anyone's car down i apologise if i upset you or any1. ROCKCRAWLER thats right you weren't there so what are you on about putting your 2cents in? Are you the guy that dented his roof 6th dec?? nice truck anyway. And banks001 what is your prob? What have i done to you? I didn't appreciate been abused by two fellow drivers because i took points off per stage for having two aided diff's, they couldn't turn sharp so they had to stop revs alot. Second stage was told 10 30 and 50 points above the rocks, 100point bonus if you drove up and above. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A PROB??????

[OIIIIIIIO]

1st stage you had bonus 50points and a secound bonus60 points on top of the rest of the points. Dose it matter if you got 100 or 200points???? you all got scored the same.

[banks001]

Cristian i wasn't having a go at you or running anyone's car down i apologise if i upset you or any1. ROCKCRAWLER thats right you weren't there so what are you on about putting your 2cents in? Are you the guy that dented his roof 6th dec?? nice truck anyway. And banks001 what is your prob? What have i done to you? I didn't appreciate been abused by two fellow drivers because i took points off per stage for having two aided diff's, they couldn't turn sharp so they had to stop revs alot. Second stage was told 10 30 and 50 points above the rocks, 100point bonus if you drove up and above. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A PROB??????

mate ur a dead set wank shaft, have a look at wat you are saying to the people that are competing and making the park money, betta shh up and organise ur class a bit better or no one will want to compete

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Cristian i wasn't having a go at you or running anyone's car down i apologise if i upset you or any1. ROCKCRAWLER thats right you weren't there so what are you on about putting your 2cents in? Are you the guy that dented his roof 6th dec?? nice truck anyway. And banks001 what is your prob? What have i done to you? I didn't appreciate been abused by two fellow drivers because i took points off per stage for having two aided diff's, they couldn't turn sharp so they had to stop revs alot. Second stage was told 10 30 and 50 points above the rocks, 100point bonus if you drove up and above. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A PROB??????

mate ur a dead set wank shaft, have a look at wat you are saying to the people that are competing and making the park money, betta shh up and organise ur class a bit better or no one will want to compete

Well he won't be coming back to Marshall now, why would he? It was his first time to Marshall at this event, he didn't have plans of Marshaling until he was asked to by Brenden on the morning of the event. He did not set the course and did not make the rules. And now you are calling him names.

[banks001]

appoliges for the name calling, i just dont like the attiude that he is expressing at the moment, i love these events and will be apart of it all year, looking forward to the next comp, had enough arguing as i said im not the type to argue and i dont go to these for points i got for fun and to meet people,

there was alot of people out there on saturday, i heard about the flooding out there, lucky didnt stay the night, was close to

[OIIIIIIIO]

Cristian i wasn't having a go at you or running anyone's car down i apologise if i upset you or any1. ROCKCRAWLER thats right you weren't there so what are you on about putting your 2cents in? Are you the guy that dented his roof 6th dec?? nice truck anyway. And banks001 what is your prob? What have i done to you? I didn't appreciate been abused by two fellow drivers because i took points off per stage for having two aided diff's, they couldn't turn sharp so they had to stop revs alot. Second stage was told 10 30 and 50 points above the rocks, 100point bonus if you drove up and above. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A PROB??????

mate ur a dead set wank shaft, have a look at wat you are saying to the people that are competing and making the park money, betta shh up and organise ur class a bit better or no one will want to compete

Oh well if thats how you feel!!! And you know what i dont get park money or get payed for doing it, i knew i would be a punching bag, nothing ever changes!!
By the way 17 cars to marshall!! in street mods,and trying to get every1 through as quick as possible, but yeah thanx guys. Think i've said enough on here.

[Suspension Stuff]

appoliges for the name calling, i just dont like the attiude that he is expressing at the moment, i love these events and will be apart of it all year, looking forward to the next comp, had enough arguing as i said im not the type to argue and i dont go to these for points i got for fun and to meet people,

there was alot of people out there on saturday, i heard about the flooding out there, lucky didnt stay the night, was close to

We are always going to have different opinions on how it should be run. If somebody attacked my integrity I can tell you I would come out swinging also.

As soon as this blows over I want to get back to paying out on Luke for getting negative figures

[67boogieman]

len i dont know u but u came in on saturday and gave up your day so we could play for this i beleive u r a great guy witch in the furture wish to talk more to and become friends over time after all that y we like these days so much

[rockcrawler31]

Cristian i wasn't having a go at you or running anyone's car down i apologise if i upset you or any1. ROCKCRAWLER thats right you weren't there so what are you on about putting your 2cents in? Are you the guy that dented his roof 6th dec?? nice truck anyway. And banks001 what is your prob? What have i done to you? I didn't appreciate been abused by two fellow drivers because i took points off per stage for having two aided diff's, they couldn't turn sharp so they had to stop revs alot. Second stage was told 10 30 and 50 points above the rocks, 100point bonus if you drove up and above. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A PROB??????

Yeah mate. That was me and my embarrassing five minutes of fame.

I wasn't there for sure, but i read and i listen, and not JUST to the other half of BB Racing. I wasn't upset and i don't think Luke is either about the comments, i've just learnt the hard way about wording my thoughts as we can see from the bunfight that has just gone on. I wouldn't give up on marshalling just on this, I think if you asked around, most people who competed would be glad that you mucked in regardless of whether they agree with your decision since at the very least it allowed them to get out and have a drive.

Have we met? i'm shit with names, but better with landmarks and faces When did i meet you on Dec 6?

[rockcrawler31]

As soon as this blows over I want to get back to paying out on Luke for getting negative figures

Oh dude. He is dirty hey.