hi guys im goeing to do an engine swap
i now drive the f85 thats the 2 liter petrol rocky
i got a demolition salvidge rocky 2.8 tdi
so the salviged engin and tranny from that rocky is goeing into my f85
still there are some questions
1 how much hp does the 2.8 tdi acctualy have
2 has annyone done this before
3 does the entire electrical system also need swapping
4 what other problems could i run into
thanks for the advice
greets from holland
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engine swap
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Re: engine swap
some pics of the donor car
i already noticed i have to put engine mounts forward about 4 cm
i already noticed i have to put engine mounts forward about 4 cm
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Re: engine swap
Why not fixing the donor car and play with it 
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Re: engine swap
well the gouvernment has a rule here
cars older then 25 years are streettax free my f85 is almost 26 years old
the f75 the tdi was build in 92 and cant get tax free annymore
tax for diesel car is 3 times that of a petrol car exxept for cars older then 25 years as they are tax free
and then we have the 1/3 rule here
cars older then 25 years are allowed to swap 1/3 of the car for younger parts
but only 1/3 if u swap more they take the age of the youngest parts and say youre car was build then so u have to pay tax again
and if i look at petrol price here and diesel thats a big difference and with the fuelconsumption of the f85 1 liter at 8 km i would probably be better of swapping to the tdi
might be a bit more difficult and more work then a normal diesel but that was the only scrap rocky i could find within budget
and the donor car doesnt even have license plates on it so its not allowed to be driven exept on youre own ground
as my garden is 50meters by 120 meters its not worth it
and thats the whole story why im gonna do the swap
cars older then 25 years are streettax free my f85 is almost 26 years old
the f75 the tdi was build in 92 and cant get tax free annymore
tax for diesel car is 3 times that of a petrol car exxept for cars older then 25 years as they are tax free
and then we have the 1/3 rule here
cars older then 25 years are allowed to swap 1/3 of the car for younger parts
but only 1/3 if u swap more they take the age of the youngest parts and say youre car was build then so u have to pay tax again
and if i look at petrol price here and diesel thats a big difference and with the fuelconsumption of the f85 1 liter at 8 km i would probably be better of swapping to the tdi
might be a bit more difficult and more work then a normal diesel but that was the only scrap rocky i could find within budget
and the donor car doesnt even have license plates on it so its not allowed to be driven exept on youre own ground
as my garden is 50meters by 120 meters its not worth it
and thats the whole story why im gonna do the swap
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Re: engine swap
well we removed the engine of the tdi yesterday and i took some pics
here they are
looks good i think
here they are
looks good i think
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Re: engine swap
It would pay to change both front and rear diffs as well, either just the centres, or the complete diffs. Thats due to the different ratios between the petrols and the diesels.
Also, the heaters are different, well they are in RHD markets, because yours is LHD, you may not have to change it, but if you have to you could get around this by extending the heater hoses.
Yes, you will have to change all or part of the wiring harness. If I remember correctly, there is a connector beside one of the seats. You could disconect it there, leave the rear half of the harness in place, and change the front. Also, things like instrument panel, to reflect the glow plug light, ect. Then there are silly things like different length clutch cables, radiators, ect, but you should easily get around this.
Also, the heaters are different, well they are in RHD markets, because yours is LHD, you may not have to change it, but if you have to you could get around this by extending the heater hoses.
Yes, you will have to change all or part of the wiring harness. If I remember correctly, there is a connector beside one of the seats. You could disconect it there, leave the rear half of the harness in place, and change the front. Also, things like instrument panel, to reflect the glow plug light, ect. Then there are silly things like different length clutch cables, radiators, ect, but you should easily get around this.
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Re: engine swap
well for the diffs were swapping the complete axles
and the heater that is no big issue as i have to take the entire dash out for swapping the electrics so at the same time heater excange is no problem
tnx for the info
now some extra pics of a striped rocky cab
and the heater that is no big issue as i have to take the entire dash out for swapping the electrics so at the same time heater excange is no problem
tnx for the info
now some extra pics of a striped rocky cab
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Re: engine swap
update wrecker has been taken apart as far as i need the parts
then we lifted the body for max accicebillity
we cleaned the chassis and replaced the engine mounts with the diesel once and gave it a nice bleu coating
and thats it for now more pics will follow as we progress
then we lifted the body for max accicebillity
we cleaned the chassis and replaced the engine mounts with the diesel once and gave it a nice bleu coating
and thats it for now more pics will follow as we progress
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Re: engine swap
axles have been painted but not placed yet because the oil seales werent deliverd yet so they have to wait till next saturday
engine is placed new brake and fuel lines are on it
were working on the body now but no pics of that yet
and as a surprice my brother in law has bought our next project so i think im gonna spent the next couple of months in the garage
this is a 84 rocky but hes in bad shape so a shit load more work on it then mine but he has to wait till mine is ready again
engine is placed new brake and fuel lines are on it
were working on the body now but no pics of that yet
and as a surprice my brother in law has bought our next project so i think im gonna spent the next couple of months in the garage
this is a 84 rocky but hes in bad shape so a shit load more work on it then mine but he has to wait till mine is ready again
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Re: engine swap
next update been real busy putting the car together
we painted the axles red looks great (sorry no pics was to busy)
complete wiring harness out of the wrecker put into my rocky
(still no pics)
then complete rebuild for m.o.t. or as we call it apk
and yes its got a m.o.t on it now
( and ye finally a pic)
and now on to putting on my winch and my own bumpers
update will follow
we painted the axles red looks great (sorry no pics was to busy)
complete wiring harness out of the wrecker put into my rocky
(still no pics)
then complete rebuild for m.o.t. or as we call it apk
and yes its got a m.o.t on it now
( and ye finally a pic)
and now on to putting on my winch and my own bumpers
update will follow
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Re: engine swap
nice work mate how do you like the turbo diesel over the petrol
Re: engine swap
i love the turbo diesel engine shit load of extra power should have done it 7 years ago when i bought the car
before i just couldnt keep up with the other traffic when driving onroad but now i have to hold back or ill push the cars infront of me
before i just couldnt keep up with the other traffic when driving onroad but now i have to hold back or ill push the cars infront of me
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Re: engine swap
Is there a significant jump in power with the turbo to non turbo diesel? I have the standard, and kinda wished i waited to buy a turbo one.
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I can tell you now that the turbo diesel rocky's - they haul assalex.tas wrote:Is there a significant jump in power with the turbo to non turbo diesel? I have the standard, and kinda wished i waited to buy a turbo one.
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yeah i have a td aswell i didnt mind the non turbo , but once i went turbo prob wouldnt go back , im running 33x12.5 and have no problem sitting on 100 . plus the DL diesels sound so much better than the hilux 2.8 turbo . the DL sound just like big trucks when you run no muffler lol.
Re: engine swap
any idea to power increase? percentage wise or kw/hp
Re: engine swap
hp went from 88 up to 101 at least thats what the books say
but it feels like a whole lot more
but it feels like a whole lot more
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Torque is the big difference on these beasts - remember it's still a diesel that only revs to 4000rpm....manus wrote:hp went from 88 up to 101 at least thats what the books say
but it feels like a whole lot more
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Re: engine swap
time for a little update
placed frontbash plate and bumper
still have to look how to fit my winch behind that bumper
if annyone has some pics of how they done it dont hassitate to send them to me
greetz manus
placed frontbash plate and bumper
still have to look how to fit my winch behind that bumper
if annyone has some pics of how they done it dont hassitate to send them to me
greetz manus
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Re: engine swap
Not quite the same but theres some pics of my Feroza ( wow that was a long time ago......... ) on WARFS with its winch and mount.
Given the similarities in vehicles and bars might be worth a quick peek.
BTW - nice job.
Given the similarities in vehicles and bars might be worth a quick peek.
BTW - nice job.
( usual disclaimers )
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Re: engine swap
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Yup - that's it
It hadn't even got wide way back then - ah the memories :-)
It hadn't even got wide way back then - ah the memories :-)
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It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
It seemed like a much better idea when I started it than it does now.
Re: engine swap
Thats what i noticed first thats a narrow feroza not a home made wide-trackMightyMouse wrote:Yup - that's it
It hadn't even got wide way back then - ah the memories :-)
Manus you have swapped a hole diesel engine, i am pretty sure you can come up with an good idea for your winch mounting
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im sure i will but why sort it out myselve when other people have done it beforeManus you have swapped a hole diesel engine, i am pretty sure you can come up with an good idea for your winch mounting
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I've done it. Not pretty but works and plenty strong enough.manus wrote:im sure i will but why sort it out myselve when other people have done it beforeManus you have swapped a hole diesel engine, i am pretty sure you can come up with an good idea for your winch mounting
Will put up pics if ever I remember.
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