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BALENO ENGINE SWAP

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BALENO ENGINE SWAP

Post by OVERKILL ENG »

As requested I am starting a thread on the BAleno 1.3 engine swap that I am currently doing on my Zook.
More info and Pictures to come. :lol: :lol:

For those that aren't familiar with it they are a 1.3 ltr 16 valve single came engine with multipoint injection.
In simple terms it is a 1.3 GTI bottom end with a 16 valve injected Vitara head on it.
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Post by trialjimny »

or, if you prefer, it's the 1998-2000 jimny engine.
are you going to swap the tranny too?
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Post by Beastmavster »

Why not the 1.8 :(
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Post by christover1 »

I'm watching with interest, as efi/throttle body conversion to my G13B would be nice.
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Post by Damo »

Forced induction again? :cool:
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christover1 wrote:I'm watching with interest, as efi/throttle body conversion to my G13B would be nice.


My old engine had the throttle body injection off a Vitara which was a shiat easy conversiion as it all bolts straight on.
This one has a multi point manifold.

The first hurdle we have come across is that the head has the water outlet in the back of the head which points straight into the firewalll so I am toying with the idea of modifiing the manifold to run the outlet out at thefront of the head.
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Damo wrote:Forced induction again? :cool:



Of course :cool:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

All the parts are here for the rebuild so I will hopefully have it ready to go in this week. This is where you search guru's come in I need a wiring diagram for the computer. PLEASE. It is a 1.3 Baleno engine.
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Post by DRV11T »

Sam check your PM
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DRV11T wrote:Sam check your PM



Done ;)
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DRV11T wrote:Sam check your PM


Okay finally made some good progress this week (5.30am starts )
Motor is back together and in the Zook complete with blower.
Hit a few snags on the way.
Engine fan won't fit water pump so have to run thermo.
Pulleys beeing multi rib are wider and had to make new blower brakets.
Make new throttle cable.
Made right angle hose fitting for the back of the head to run top radiator hose.
Modified Vit extractors to fit.
Got wiring diagram of DRV11T much appreciated. Should have it wired up on the weekend.

Have taken heaps of photo's but keep leaving the camera at work so I will post them up on the weekend.
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I run a swift import motor, it has the multi v belts, and also dont fit the sierra fan. we solved this with an alloy boss adaptor made up by our zook club president. ( cause I seen too many thermos die in awkward places ) christover
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Post by nicbeer »

Is the same engine as in the 1.3 99- Suzi Carry's or is a different piece of kit.

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christover1 wrote:I run a swift import motor, it has the multi v belts, and also dont fit the sierra fan. we solved this with an alloy boss adaptor made up by our zook club president. ( cause I seen too many thermos die in awkward places ) christover



I agree with you I would prefer to run the engine fan.I will look at changing this . Onother option is to run the Sierra water pump and balancer and change the pulley on the alternator to suit.
SAM.

Another thing we found was that the the pulley for the power steer on the balancer was 2mm bigger in diameter than the one we were using to run the blower so we will have a little more boost now. (1-2 pounds)
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OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote: Onother option is to run the Sierra water pump and balancer and change the pulley on the alternator to suit.
SAM.


yep, me had that thought, as I had to change the cam, but it meant taking off 2 year old swift bits, to replace with 20 year old sierra bits...swift alternator seems to be less trouble, but maybe its just newer condition? christipover
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christover1 wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote: Onother option is to run the Sierra water pump and balancer and change the pulley on the alternator to suit.
SAM.


yep, me had that thought, as I had to change the cam, but it meant taking off 2 year old swift bits, to replace with 20 year old sierra bits...swift alternator seems to be less trouble, but maybe its just newer condition? christipover



I agree I want to stay with the baleno alternator as it is a 60 amp one as apposed to the Sierra's 25amp one.
The engine looks good in there and there is still 3 inches of room under the bonnet with no bodylift.
I'll make sudr I get some photo's up on the weekend.
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Post by zooki »

A Sierra water pump with Vitara pulley and fan may work?
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some photo's
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Post by lilpigzuk »

Is that the same engine as a swift GTi?? Im running one of those and considering bolting a hairdryer on the side :)
Anymore Turbo info you can give??

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lilpigzuk wrote:Is that the same engine as a swift GTi?? Im running one of those and considering bolting a hairdryer on the side :)
Anymore Turbo info you can give??

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Read the first post :D
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Post by suzukisam »

lilpigzuk wrote:Is that the same engine as a swift GTi?? Im running one of those and considering bolting a hairdryer on the side :)
Anymore Turbo info you can give??

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rex, looks like the g13bb efi 16v sohc motor with supercharger
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Post by ca18escort »

Sam,
Which supercharger is that one? Is it the SC12? I an looking at chucking one on my zook once I get the EFI sorted.

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Post by cj »

Looks like The Aisin AMR300 fitted to the Japanese-market 660cc Subaru Vivio/Pleo.
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cj wrote:Looks like The Aisin AMR300 fitted to the Japanese-market 660cc Subaru Vivio/Pleo.



COrrect :D
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Post by DeWsE »

g13bb efi 16v


Is that the correct engin?

Generally how available are they from the importers?
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Post by SpiritWolf »

Just a question
how much is it costing u to do this project???
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Post by NoPsi »

Is the blower centrifugal or roots style? Only asking because I am toying with the idea of one of these in a draw thru setup on a 1L. Just wondering how long theb lades will last will fuel pumping through them.

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Post by stumped »

prolly not costing much cos he doesn't charge himself labour :D


how's it goin sam? any updates?
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

No updates have been to busy.
It is close probably needs 2 days work and it is done.
Cost wise don't know will add it up when it is finished but doing the labour myself makes it quite cheap.
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