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rear diff

Tech Talk for Rover owners.

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rear diff

Post by yella_rangie »

well i have broke 2 rear diffs in 1 week. same thing both times. centre pin snapped. have got the whole replacing it thing down to an art. can do it in less that 2 hours. but..i dont want to be doing this. i have done a huge search on toyota centres conversion..not that i know wat all those numbers and ratios mean. can someone tell me exactly wat i need in laymans terms? ie you need a diff from a 1980 hilux. blah blah..

or

is it worth me maybe just to buy a locker for the rear and upgrade my axles?

thanks ..im not trying to be a pain!!!!
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Post by HSV Rangie »

Toy diffs.

rear low pinion.
pic a ratio that returns gearing to Std with the tyre diam you wish to run. (Have a excel spread sheet that I can email you)

Front: Hi pinion or jacmac centre. (need to be hi pinion to clear steering.)

If required I have a template/jig that can be used for drilling the Rover housing.

new studs M8 buy 30mm 8.8 studs.
8mm tap and drill tosuit.

Axles:

Rear: Jac mac inc flanges around $700.00
will require rear spindle to be bored out about 20 thou. aprox $40.00 for both.

Front: Jac mac axles around $550-600.00
will have to decide which CV you wish to run.
If you run toy cv you will need drive flanges.

Spindles again have to be bored if you go with 30 spline toy cv.
Swivell ball housing needs to be bored 20 thou aprox.

pinion flanges (toy diff) need to be machined and drilled to take rover drive shaft.

Michael.
Mitsubishi 2010 NT DID Pajero wagon, Factory rear diff lock, Dual batteries, ARB bar, winch, Mt ATZ 4 rib tyres.
1986 RR.
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Post by GRIMACE »

HSV Rangie wrote:Spindles again have to be bored if you go with 30 spline toy cv.
Swivell ball housing needs to be bored 20 thou aprox.

Michael.


what if i used Haultech Heat treated AEU2522 CVs ? ? ?
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Post by yella_rangie »

no worries. thanks for that. though depending on prices it still maybe cheaper for me to go a detroit locker for the rear with upgraded axles and a tru trac for the front... i am looking at $1300 for a detroit locker from Opposite lock.
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Post by HSV Rangie »

upgrade xisting wil be cheaper yes.

make sure you do the axles as they break next aftter fixing diff.

:lol:

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Post by Slunnie »

Is that the cost of the Detroit! You can get an ARB, JacMac or Maxi locker for that much when you also factor the axles in.
Cheers
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Post by yella_rangie »

oh...i didnt know that. so that woudl be the locker and the axles?
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Post by yella_rangie »

oh...i didnt know that. so that woudl be the locker and the axles?
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Post by walker »

You would be looking at about $1300 for an ARB locker + approx $850 for the maxi-drive axel kit. I think a maxi-drive locker would be a bit more.

Whatever you do you have to do the axels so in that case an ARB locker would probably be cheapest.
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Post by fightara »

Or for cheapness sake you could just upgrade the rear to 24-spline discos and whack in an airlocker to get teh 4 hemispheres
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Post by BASSYK »

walker wrote:You would be looking at about $1300 for an ARB locker + approx $850 for the maxi-drive axel kit. I think a maxi-drive locker would be a bit more.

Whatever you do you have to do the axels so in that case an ARB locker would probably be cheapest.


plus about another $300 for the compressor etc..

just get the whole maxi drive and be done with it

just over $2k fitted

i got mine fitted aby dave at Hardcore 4x4 in mitcham and havent looked back since
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Post by yella_rangie »

not too keen on arb...have heard lots of not so good things about them blowing seals and compressors overheating..thinking maybe maxidrive or a jacmac vaccum diff
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Post by HSV Rangie »

Jac mac or maxi drive both are great

Michael.

JM does both air and vac.

Michael.
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Post by yella_rangie »

emailed jacmac this is what he told me

"We only do air lockers cost AUD 1300, the 24 splined axles with flanges cost AUD 660, air compressor Thomas with looms AUD 400
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Jeff"
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Post by walker »

If you get a quote from Maxi-drive I would be interested to hear the comparison.
Thanks,

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Post by yella_rangie »

yep. gonna ring maxi 2morrow
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Post by LukeV »

fightara wrote:Or for cheapness sake you could just upgrade the rear to 24-spline discos and whack in an airlocker to get teh 4 hemispheres


That's what I have done. Bits for the 24spline conversion cost $250, but that was for the whole axle housing disc to disc. Plus I sold (well swapped for Bundy :P ) my old 10 spline hubs and stubs. The ARB cost $1050 and the loom $30. Already had all the other bits.

Only have 31's at the moment until I get my body lift and a few other things sorted.

Luke
'88 Rangie, 3.9i, Bilstein Shocks and RS Springs, ARB Lockers F&R, 24spline rear axles, Flares, [url=http://users.on.net/~vethaak/Projects.htm]Custom centre console and cargo shelves[/url]
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