Shorty in 4WD Monthly

[Hekta]

I got my new one today. There's a shorty in there that looks pretty cool.

3" suspension lift (ball joint flip & spacers), body lift and 35's

Points of interest. Commodore Injectors (bigger than ours or something), 3"(iirc) throttle body, headers and exhaust system.
I'll read it again tomorrow and probably edit this post with more details, but for now I'm going to bed.

Anyone know the rig ?

[Bitsamissin]

Don't know that one Hekta but keen to see it

[slosh]

I see it every other day when I go into town. Sweet looking rig. Haven't seen it with steel wheels b4, it's always got alloys and 33's on which look huge let alone the 35's.

[Overkill]

Would you be able to tell us what Mag that is, also the Issue number. Keen as mustard to check it out. Hope we sell that mag over the ditch! Cheers.[/img]

[rocknferoza]

Would you be able to tell us what Mag that is, also the Issue number. Keen as mustard to check it out. Hope we sell that mag over the ditch! Cheers.[/img]

4WD monthly
December 2005 issue

Hope that helps

[rocknferoza]

I see it every other day when I go into town. Sweet looking rig. Haven't seen it with steel wheels b4, it's always got alloys and 33's on which look huge let alone the 35's.

I must say it's an awsome looking paj and it sits up bloody high. Makes the feroza look small

[GREGGO]

Already priced common *hore injectors and they are cheap as a new aftermarket part. Just wondering if 3L V6 TR Magna throttle bodies are the go. Might need a trip to the wrecker with the verniers and a measuring list

[its fishi]

a bit OT...hmm I'm thinking 2.25" exhaust incl. hi flow cat (leave std manifolds for the mo'), get the air into the airbox by more direct means and a dyno tune. Then down the track...larger throttle body and maybe S-AFC or similar, with possibility of injectors.

RPW have larger throttle bodies btw.

[Overkill]

Thanks rocknferoza, we won't get that issue for another Month. 1 week away from getting the November issue. Cheers

[klrevo]

what issue is it? the one with the 4WDOTY Awards/??? and the ORI jeep on the front or not? cos that ones not called december??? or is there a december issue? or can i just not find the paj???

dean

[Angus]

Anyone able to scan a pic of it ? (Please)

[cookie monster]

I see it every other day when I go into town. Sweet looking rig. Haven't seen it with steel wheels b4, it's always got alloys and 33's on which look huge let alone the 35's.

CAN YOU STOP HIM AND ASK HIM TO JOIN THE FORUM !! READING THE ARTICAL, HE HAS SOME INTERESTING FACTS TO SHARE.
ITS IN THE MAG WITH HI LUX ON FRONT
COOKIE

[Noisey]

CAN YOU STOP HIM AND ASK HIM TO JOIN THE FORUM !! READING THE ARTICAL, HE HAS SOME INTERESTING FACTS TO SHARE.

Now ya thinkin !!

[klrevo]

seriously what mag is it, cos DECEMBER issue is the 4WDOTY awards one, and its definitely not in there cos i looked abnout 20 times today, and the new ones not out yet, ill have to look at the NOVEMBER issue....

dean

[South]

The Issue is out now for those who subscribe.

The vehicle has an outerlimits sticker on the side of it, so I would assume he is already a member... It looks very cool! makes ya wanna go out and put big chunky tyres on ya car

[klrevo]

thanks southy, im taking it that its the january one or something then, i guess ill just have to wait until its out in the newsagents

dean

[Hekta]

seriously what mag is it, cos DECEMBER issue is the 4WDOTY awards one, and its definitely not in there cos i looked abnout 20 times today, and the new ones not out yet, ill have to look at the NOVEMBER issue....

dean

20 times ? haha It does say December issue on it. Maybe they stuffed up

It's No. 87 and has a new Hilux on the front.

I'll scan a pic a bit later on.

[klrevo]

bitches i dunno, yeh the website says that december issue is the 4WDOTY awards one, ahh well, she'll be out soon, ill see it then thanks

dean

[Hekta]

I just noticed as I was scanning the pic that he has an Outerlimits sticker on the door

Dude! Come online and tell us about your rig!

[Glennb]

AAAWWWSOME pics I want my car like that

Is it a manual or auto and does it have a lower range transfercase kit in it??
Also whats the ball joint flip and spacers do? Just clearance for the tyres or something??

[Hekta]

AAAWWWSOME pics I want my car like that

Is it a manual or auto and does it have a lower range transfercase kit in it??

I don't believe it does

Also whats the ball joint flip and spacers do? Just clearance for the tyres or something??

It raises the upper A-arm giving you more room to wind up the torsion bars, or more down travel after the torsion bars are wound up. The disadvantage is that the ball joing is no longer seated in its 'hole' and only the bolts are holding it in. If the bolts snap the arm will seperate from the rest of the suspension.

Do a search for "ball joint flip" in this forum. There's a couple of threads about 'em.

[klrevo]

thats tough hopefully what my little paj will look like soon, well early next yr, the ally bar for body lift is sitting there waiting to be turned, and i got some 15x8 sunnies coming from uncle that im swapping for my alloys and am gonna spray gunmetal grey, and then early next yr ill be looking for some 32/34" JT2s, should be good i hope, whatever happens after that i dunno, thinkin gearing, then maybe a respray in black, and see what happens with miyagi's SAS and what i decide on doing, wouldnt be til june anyways,

i like the jabber, thanks heaps Hekta for scanning that in, especially for us deprived folk without a subscription, gettin all confused about the months of issues and all still claiming its 4WD Monthlys fault

ball joint flip doesnt really appeal to me, i dont like the way that the ball joint doesnt sit in its place anymore, more is just held there and if soemthing breaks then i wouldnt like to see the end result could be very very nasty, though there is some on here running it isnt there???

dean

p.s - so who is it??? slosh says he sees it every other day when he goes into town, but it has NSW rego??? slosh if it is the same one tell him to come on and tell us about it, its nice, otherwise if ur reading this let us know who u are

[cookie monster]

where do you get the outer limits stickers from ???
cookie monster

[Bitsamissin]

Yeah got it in the post today.
It says he's in Qld.
He has an Outer Limits sticker on it and is aware of the crawler gears so must read the forum (you can tell by some of the other mods).
One thing though is the article said it's producing 140Kw and 340Nm at the flywheel - I highly dispute that (especially the torque figure).
Nice truck with some great mods.

[Hekta]

where do you get the outer limits stickers from ???
cookie monster

PM Ruff. Although I haven't seen one like his before

[klrevo]

im sure ud know heaps more than me frank, especially about the jabbers engine, but from my experiences with road cars, the difference in figures from the flywheel to the wheels can be huge, and i imagine that with fourbies its even worse, the loss of power through the gearbox, transfer, diffs, cvs, driveshafts, and wheels, possibly the figure might be that high at the flywheel but id love to see the figure at the wheels, and agreeing with you, especially the torque reading, its rather high but hey, yeh my prediction would be a 20-30% loss of those figures through the driveline to the wheels making that what, 112kw / 272Nm at the wheels, to around 98kw / 238Nm at the wheels, this somewhat sounds better, especially when stock figures are at 109kw / 234Nm, and that would be at the fly also, so when u take figures at the wheels sounds more realistic, its still a 28% increase in power, and a 45% increase in torque att he fly, and thats big in itself. just somethign tot hink about i guess,

its still an awesome rig and i love it wish hed get on here a bit more

dean

[Bitsamissin]

Oh yeah I understand corrected dyno readings - had quite a few cars dynoed (including one sick Cordia).
Mine was getting 92Kw @ 5500rpm after all the mods and that was with the 34"s on. Corrected flywheel torque was only marginally up from standard (can't remember exactly but about 10%).
Before dyno = 76Kw (everything standard).
So I reckon mine would be about 115-120Kw at the flywheel even though it gained 16Kw adding it to 109Kw is not the real world as output drops away with age. I reckon torque on mine would be about 245-250Nm (standard 234Nm).
The mods were very noticeable but you soon get used to them and crave more

[klrevo]

yeh definitely frank, the mods bugs bite and they never stop itching, but yeh either way u look at it, u can make figures look better than they really are, and also a 28% and a 45% increase in power and torque is MASSIVE , if its true either way, at the fly its still huge and at the wheels, im just waiting til it comes out in the newsagents so i can get it, maybe i should get a subscription maybe when i get some money never gonna happen, not once ur bitten

dean

[South]

Yeh those figures are definately a bit, shall we say, fudged... The 3.5L only has 300Nm at 3000rpm I think, sounds about right? and it has an intake plennum designed to increase torque... There is no way a snorkel and exhaust will boost the 3L torque in such a big way, its just no possible.

Mind you, our 3.5L has 600hp and 1200Nm

Still a nice looking rig none the less

[klrevo]

Mind you, our 3.5L has 600hp and 1200Nm

smartass southy

dean