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Post by dreama »

well i got inspired today took my time everthing has worked out well i ground the sides off the springs now they fit beutifuly so it is looking good for some welding on the weekend
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Post by dreama »

well i got a little bit of work done today cut the old shackle mounts off the back and tacked the new ones in place had a few problems with the welder and had to call it a day still fealing inspired though so hoprfully will get some more done threw the week

haave a new mod to ad to the list as well i will be getting a ladder bar installed
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fun isn't it! :twisted:
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where did you find that housing :?:
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which housing you talking about
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your front housing
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hired a welder today got a bit more work done the rear shackle mounts are welded in the front shackle mounts are welded in and the hoop shock mounts are fitted
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get some flex discs for your angle grinder and clean up that diff and give it a spray with some nice kill rust enamel
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update now i am running snake racing extended shackles front and rear picked them up today im getting my brake line kit tommorow so im back in buisseness again so now suspension wise im am sitting 4inches above standard its begining to look pretty dam fat
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lookin damn fat
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Post by dreama »

shes getting there took my tail shaft to get shortend yesterday should get it back early next week any way here is some more pics
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there has been a change in plans im going another 2inches higher again in the springs but will be still runing stanadard springs now its sought of getting out of hand i will be "6inches in springs and 2inches in body"
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dreama wrote:there has been a change in plans im going another 2inches higher again in the springs but will be still runing stanadard springs now its sought of getting out of hand i will be "6inches in springs and 2inches in body"


Don't you think it will be a little top heavy???

I have about 4" in suspension and 2" in BL. If I could I would loose the BL. But then I would have to drop the running gear and bumpers.

Cut the guards :twisted:

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Post by dreama »

yeah i do think its getting way to high it was only meant to be 3inches spring but cause of the under chasis shackle mounts and extended shackle it completely stuffed the pinion angle so the dropped cross member has to go down another 2inches to correct it and i will have to run lift blocks in the back so thats what im going to end up with it has all come frome doing this SAS and i defanitley wont do it again
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Post by RUFF »

It has not come from doing the SAS. You can do an SAS and retain Stock height.
You have just gone about it all the wrong way.
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dreama wrote:yeah i do think its getting way to high it was only meant to be 3inches spring but cause of the under chasis shackle mounts and extended shackle it completely stuffed the pinion angle so the dropped cross member has to go down another 2inches to correct it and i will have to run lift blocks in the back so thats what im going to end up with it has all come frome doing this SAS and i defanitley wont do it again


If I was you I would go back to a standard length shackle (on the front) and if the pinion angle is still a problem use wedges.

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Post by dreama »

i went about it the way i was told to to fix it all now will mean cutting everything off and starting over and replacing alot of parts so f@#k it it will stay the way it is
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Ruff please explain?
I was under the impression from posts I had read on Pirate that you needed about 4 inches of spring lift to clear the steering and stuff?
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Post by M&M Custom Engineerin »

move the shackle mount under the chassis forward so it lays down more. This will lower your truck and give you more down travel.

You dont need to go as far this, but this gives you an idea
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dreama wrote:i went about it the way i was told to to fix it all now will mean cutting everything off and starting over and replacing alot of parts so f@#k it it will stay the way it is


The biggest mistake you made was using late model rear springs in the front. They are too long. Also putting the hanger under the frame has made your pinion point the wrong way.


Who was giving you info on doing this swap?
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Post by RUFF »

ausyota wrote:Ruff please explain?
I was under the impression from posts I had read on Pirate that you needed about 4 inches of spring lift to clear the steering and stuff?
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If you move the box forward and tilt it and then run a 75series pitman you can get away with running flat springs.The US guys dont have access to 75series arms so they are using the stock pitman with an adapter which wont allow flat springs.
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Post by M&M Custom Engineerin »

RUFF wrote:

The biggest mistake you made was using late model rear springs in the front. They are too long. Also putting the hanger under the frame has made your pinion point the wrong way.


Who was giving you info on doing this swap?


The pinion issue can easily be fixed with new perches and cutting the knuckles
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dreama wrote:you need to go 4inches up if you use ifs rears in the front if you use standard fronts it should be sweet



Why did you use IFS rears? This is your biggest problem.

I run a spring in the front of mine that maxes out a 14" shock both ways and these springs are the same length as stock non IFS rears.
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Post by RUFF »

mickbj42 wrote:
RUFF wrote:

The biggest mistake you made was using late model rear springs in the front. They are too long. Also putting the hanger under the frame has made your pinion point the wrong way.


Who was giving you info on doing this swap?


The pinion issue can easily be fixed with new perches and cutting the knuckles



And it can be fixed even easier if he uses the right springs and mounts.
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Post by M&M Custom Engineerin »

RUFF wrote:
mickbj42 wrote:
RUFF wrote:

The biggest mistake you made was using late model rear springs in the front. They are too long. Also putting the hanger under the frame has made your pinion point the wrong way.


Who was giving you info on doing this swap?


The pinion issue can easily be fixed with new perches and cutting the knuckles



And it can be fixed even easier if he uses the right springs and mounts.


True.

You could make the set up that he has there work though.

Why are people in hilux's scared to cut and rotate knuckles? They are the same set up as a cruiser. It would be a heap easier to rotate the knuckles than cut off the drop hangers and fab up new ones. Not to mention the fact he will end up with a rig so tall it will fall over going up a gutter.

As Ruff asked before, who was giving you advice on this build?
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